Nintendo is highly profitable because their games are cheap to make but to think that the WiiU will experience a turn around is a bit hopeful. Historically Nintendo consoles have not done very well when pitted against PS consoles.

Not sure who ur directing this to but did anyone claim it would be?

In awaiting his ignorant response

Ur very good at ignoring what people say, Archbrik and I both said we think PS4 will sell better in the long run.

What does the production cost of Nintendo games have to do with anything?

And why cant it have a turnaround? It currently has one big title which is the main reason it isnt selling, by the end of the year it will have 5 titles that historically sell over 5 million and by the end of 2014 it could have 10 or more games that typically accomplish that feat.

I dunno the PS4/XB1 have plenty of monster franchises that look to be on track for 2014

Madden NFL (next gen Madden)

Destiny (Bungie)

FIFA (next gen FIFA)

Call of Duty (next gen engine)

Battlefield 5

Final Fantasy XV

Metal Gear Solid V

There's bound to be other system specific exclusives too like Titanfall and inFamous and so on.

These are all monstrous releases for the Playstation and XBox audiences, third party tentpoles are what the XBox and Playstation brands are all about, Nintendo fans may scoff at something like Madden, but to a large audience, that game is as important to them as Mario or Zelda is to Nintendo fans.

No offense to the Nintendo list, but right now I'm seeing only two absolutely "monster" releases for the Wii U in 2014 -- Mario Kart and Smash Brothers. Bayonetta and X as much I would love to see them be the top selling games of the year are probably both going to be lucky to manage 800k-1 million worldwide and break even. I think Wii Sports U, if it does manage to ship in 2014 is a tired idea by now.

In terms of "depth" I think the PS4/XB1 will have more 2-3+ million sellers in 2014 than the Wii U will, after Smash + Mario Kart, the list starts to thin out considerably for Nintendo, but that's the downside of not having third party support or maybe more specifically the support of the demographics that buy third party games.

I agree that all those titles u listed will sell huge but the thing is most of thes titles will be on PS3/360/PS4/One. Im willing to bet the PS360 versions of most of them will sell better than the PS4/One versions. The only title on that list that wont be on PS360 is Final Fantasy and that could very well not cone out until 2015.

Yes. People who are knowledgable of how this industry works. 

One thing I gotta say though is ... say what you want about Microsoft but man these mofos *know* how to launch a console.

I've got a PS4 pre-ordered, but I have to admit the XB1 has the better launch lineup. Killer Instinct, Dead Rising 3, even Rhyse looks like a decent supporting title. And that one motorcycle game they had which was fairly mediocre visually, but had crazy gameplay (got to play it at E3, a blast).

And then you have Titanfall and Destiny coming in the 1st half of 2014. Microsoft doesn't skimp on their console hardware when it comes to launching the machine and they don't go cry and sit in a corner or make excuses if something like Halo isn't ready, they always seem to have other content ready to go if need be.

The XBox, 360, and XB1 have all launched well software wise, they deserve full marks for that IMO. It's just too bad Rare isn't making Killer Instinct, which I think is kinda silly but oh well. I played it at E3 and it seemed to play well.

Too bad this is about 2014 and not launch

That is exactly the price point I think they should shoot for.