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Adinnieken on 27 July 2013
KingdomHeartsFan said:

I would rather not put my game saves in the cloud, I'd rather have them on my console.  Also maybe its just me, but it sounds weird that you can install the game on the cloud, since all games require installation, I would think you need to install them on your console.

You don't install games to the cloud.  They for you to download and play in the "cloud", you don't play them remotely from there.

Your profile information, including game saves, are automatically stored both on your console and in the cloud.  This way, they're available where ever you game.

The feature has been a feature of Windows Servers since before you were born.  In Windows terms, you have a local profile and you can have a remote profile.  The latter allows you to log into any computer within an organization and have all your "stuff" (i.e. computer settings, documents, etc) right there for you.  This is just that technology expanded from a corporate server on an intranet, to a server over the Internet.



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Adinnieken on 27 July 2013
KingdomHeartsFan said:
NobleTeam360 said:
Cool, but I'll just be using my own media storage devices.


Is it confirmed that you can use external harddrives with the X1?

Yes, it was said by Microsoft quite some time ago. 



Adinnieken on 27 July 2013
MoHasanie said:
Adinnieken said:
MoHasanie said:
Wow, that's another awesome feature. When they say "you can save your games in the cloud", do they mean game data, or actual games you buy and download?

You game data can be uploaded, and it is done so automatically.  Your games and DLC are always available in the "Cloud", as with the Xbox 360.  No change there. 

But what if the cloud servers are down? Can you not play then? 

Really?  Are you taking the piss?

If you've previously downloaded and installed the game, and the Xbox LIVE servers are offline, yes you can still play your games.  This is no different than the Xbox 360.  If you're talking your profile and game saves, then those exist both locally and remotely.  So if Xbox LIVE isn't available, then your local profile is what would be used. 

Finally, if you have no Internet access on the console you're using, you can put your profile and game saves on a thumb drive or on an external HDD. 



S.T.A.G.E. on 27 July 2013

Thats already being done. Good for MS though. Sony does that with PSN Plus where you can save your games to the cloud instead of that. Didn't they alread do that?



Adinnieken on 27 July 2013
HokageTenshi said:

now this a good benefit to welcome back always online... 

The changes between how it works today on the Xbox 360 and it'll work on Xbox One.

  • Profiles and game saves are automatically synchronized between the local and remote profile.

All the other features are exactly or essentially the same as they are today.

This has nothing to do with always online.



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Blood_Tears on 27 July 2013

@S.T.A.G.E.
The PS Plus option for cloud saves has a 1GB limit though. (currently anyways)



Machiavellian on 27 July 2013
ethomaz said:
The big issues that I'm seeing with Xbone and PS4 HDD are that all the games have to be installed to run... so 500GB is enough?

For me not... I have a PS3 with 500GB Hybrid SSD and I have to delete game data every time... and for a console that some game have mandatory install.


The PS4 allows you to swap out your HDD for new bigger one and the X1 allows you to connect additional storage to the unit.  Both seem to have a way for you to extend the current storage on the system.  Also if you are able to save your game in the cloud, then you just move games you no longer play alot to the cloud and only keep games you plan on the HDD.



ethomaz on 27 July 2013

Machiavellian said:

The PS4 allows you to swap out your HDD for new bigger one and the X1 allows you to connect additional storage to the unit.  Both seem to have a way for you to extend the current storage on the system.  Also if you are able to save your game in the cloud, then you just move games you no longer play alot to the cloud and only keep games you plan on the HDD.

There is no save your game for the Cloud... what MS do is only track the game for your profile and when you need to play the game again you download the game from the same place that a new download from store... makes no sense to have the same "binary files" of the same game uploaded to the Cloud in a lot of profiles... MS will matain only one copy of the "binary files" for all profiles (even the new purchases).

Today when you need to play a game that you deleted... you need to download it again from Live or PSN... I don't like that because I love to have all my games installed in my HDD... play anytime... anywhere... that's because I have issues with HDD space.

Download to play games didn't work here... you need to give some time to the system download the game before play.

PS. What MS save in Cloud is your profile, saves, etc... the game data that is specific for your profile... the game itself is not saved in the Cloud... you just redownload from the source.



Machiavellian on 27 July 2013
ethomaz said:

Machiavellian said:

The PS4 allows you to swap out your HDD for new bigger one and the X1 allows you to connect additional storage to the unit.  Both seem to have a way for you to extend the current storage on the system.  Also if you are able to save your game in the cloud, then you just move games you no longer play alot to the cloud and only keep games you plan on the HDD.

There is no save your game for the Cloud... what MS do is only track the game for your profile and when you need to play the game again you download the game from the same place that a new download from store... makes no sense to have the same "binary files" of the same game uploaded to the Cloud in a lot of profiles... MS will matain only one copy of the "binary files" for all profiles (even the new purchases).

Today when you need to play a game that you deleted... you need to download it again from Live or PSN... I don't like that because I love to have all my games installed in my HDD... play anytime... anywhere... that's because I have issues with HDD space.

Download to play games didn't work here... you need to give some time to the system download the game before play.

PS. What MS save in Cloud is your profile, saves, etc... the game data that is specific for your profile... the game itself is not saved in the Cloud... you just redownload from the source.


Ok maybe I wasnt as clear as I was writting a quick response.  Yes I understand exactly what MS cloud saves and does not but then again you can always add additional storage to the X1 as was mentioned.  IF you really do not want to download the game again then just purchase a really big HDD and save it there.  I believe the good thing about MS setup is that you do not have to replace your existing HDD but can extend it.



ethomaz on 27 July 2013

Machiavellian said:

Ok maybe I wasnt as clear as I was writting a quick response.  Yes I understand exactly what MS cloud saves and does not but then again you can always add additional storage to the X1 as was mentioned.  IF you really do not want to download the game again then just purchase a really big HDD and save it there.  I believe the good thing about MS setup is that you do not have to replace your existing HDD but can extend it.

That's not good at all... a external HDD will never replace a internal HDD... it is like a big pendrive... I have one.