noname2200 said:
Off-Road Racing might actually get some traction, though. Motocross has a decent sized following, doesn't it? |
I am absolutely serious about all three suggestions. NST and Monster Games need something to do! Though yes, I don't know how it would be possible to make extreme sports boring and still get an audience for them.
WHERE IS MY KORORINPA 3
| RolStoppable said: On topic: As for other sports, American football is a dead end because of EA's lock on the NFL license. Nintendo could bring back their baseball and basketball games, plus consider an NHL game. Other sports aren't popular enough to bother. But even for those I mentioned it's questionable if it's even worth it. |
The NCAA is nearly as big a deal as the NFL, and they're not completely overlapping either, so if the NCAA license is available it might be a viable way to start building a valuable franchise. As for the viability of other major sports, NBA 2K averages about four million annually. Sony's MLB: The Show is a more modest series, with a mere million or so units each year. Golf games and hockey games are about on par. I'm not completely certain it'd be the most efficient use of resources, but I have to imagine that good entries in these genres would attract an appreciably-sized new audience.
| pezus said: The most important one would be football (soccer) and since EA has exclusive rights to some degree on that, I'd say it isn't worth it. I also highly doubt many people would be swayed from FIFA by now. What I think they could do is develop a racing simulation game. I think that would be very interesting |
I doubt they could succeed Gran Turismo and Forza have pretty much control of that genre. Others have tried but they have all failed Konami with Enthusia Professional Racing and Sega tried with Sega GT, Sega GT 2002 and Sega GT Online.
No. Sports Simulation titles are as boring as Racing Simulators. Which are extremely boring.
I wouldn't want Nintendo sacrificing any of their own resources to create these types of games. (Which would most likely not sell very much anyway.)
If it's something that you really think should happen (for reasons already stated), then the farthest I would go is having Nintendo contract these games out to other companies that can make it for them so they don't have to do anything.
Nintendo have had a lot of exclusive sports games on the NES like Soccer, Tennis, Golf, etc. But I think if they could bring any simulation game to Wii U, it should be Wave Race. Or Pilotwings.
Yes bring back Nintendo Sports.
Work with Konami on the PES series for Wii U/3DS, let them use Mario characters as a side mode.
Hire LeBron James and Sidney Crosby and make games based around them (basketball and hockey).
There should be a "sim mode", but a "Mario Sports" mode also in these games, so you can play a realistic style or a more aracadey style game with Mario or other Nintendo characters available.
Also make a new Punch-Out! for the 3DS and bring in Manny Pacquaio and have Mike Tyson return.
That said, if there's a money limit, my suggestion to Nintendo would be to pursue a movie license like they did with Star Wars in the 90s. Go for James Bond (currently available) or maybe make a big deal with Disney/Marvel to have exclusive Marvel games on the Wii U/3DS.
I think either exclusive Marvel or Bond properties have a good chance of selling high on the Wii U.
A sports game with Mario?
Mooooooooooo! Oh shit I mean...
Nooooooooooooo!
RolStoppable said:
Looks like someone didn't learn anything from All-Play. Putting Mario characters into simulations would be counter-productive. These games need a serious tone to be taken serious. |
You can have the regular sim mode. The Mario mode would just be a side thing.
Honestly though Nintendo would probably be better off pursuing a solid movie/franchise IP partnership like James Bond and/or Marvel Comics (those would sell great on both the Wii U *and* 3DS IMO).
Punch-Out 3D! w/Mike Tyson though please. Wouldn't cost much to get his rights.
RolStoppable said:
Maybe. But I assume Nintendo retired their baseball and basketball games, because the sales weren't good enough. Then again, nowadays there aren't alternatives available anymore, as you said in the OP. Could be worth another shot, but so are many other things too. Nintendo needs to develop and publish more games, period. So I guess I say yes, Nintendo should set up a new studio in America and try with at least NCAA and NBA. If that works, they can expand into the less popular sports. |
I don't see anyone approaching NCAA anytime soon, with it facing a class action lawsuit from active NCAA athletes over the use of their likeness without compensation.
For Nintendo to take on the major task of developing it's own sports sims again, it better set aside a few hundred million in cash to burn away the first few years before they become profitable. They'd have to build new engines from scratch, likely putting their games behind the more established franchises in terms of quality for the first few years. And even if and when Nintendo's franchises could compete with the established sims, they would have a tough battle winning over the notoriously loyal crowd of sports sim fans. The demographic that buy Nintendo consoles to play sports sims is also pretty slim. The only reason I even acknowledge its existence is because my primary consoles come from Nintendo and I enjoy sports games, so I can't discount myself. I'm weird though; others in my position just have a PS3, 360 or PC for that fix.
Between the costs of licenses + development + the aggressive advertising push needed to sway a crowd over to sports games on a Nintendo console, I just don't see it as worth it. The Nintendo fan crowd overwhelmingly doesn't care about sports sims so that's a lost cause too.
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