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Augen said:
Keep in mind a few things.

Their reality is not ours. Ellie mentions at one point how she does not understand girls from "before" concerning themselves with fashion and boys. She has lived a hard life where everyone she knows has died and life and death hang in the balance all the time.

As for her language, it is simple, children with no authority figure to tell them otherwise test their boundaries. I knew kids who came from broken homes and often by 10 would swear all the time because no one told them otherwise. In the game Joel never says "watch your language!", in fact it is only an antagonist who finds her language mildly offensive. Frankly, when the world has gone the way it has there, who really cares about decorum?

On philosophical issues. The notion of "we live and die" being what life offers is pretty common views and can take on various facets. Thinking this way can be negative or positive, personally I see it as an empowering view that gives life great value because of how precious it is. For Ellie it could be hard to handle because her life has been such a hard one to endure. On religion it is not odd to think after a great fall of civilization the myths and teachings of the before would be viewed oddly by the after people who have had no social conditioning to accept them as fact. They would look at modern religion same way many view ancient religions.

Overall I found Last of Us characterization to be brilliantly thought out and indicative of how people think and act. Sorry you do not see it that way.

bolded: I'll disagree on that. in real life, people notice when you walk right in their view range, specially if you're noisy.



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Raider84 said:
This OP might be the most narrow minded, arrogant, misinformed, sad and pathetic thing I have ever seen written.. Let alone written and defended with illogical rationale and delusional thinking and beliefs. I can just feel the ban hammer coming down on me, but when you are THIS stupid, something has to be said. You are so wrong on so many levels and most of your "facts" are fabricated BS to your liking. It is really sad and pathetic that people such as yourself still have this type of backwards thinking in the year 2013. Believe it or not you are the vast minority. As should be evident by 99% of the respondents to this thread. I almost feel bad for you.... but at the same time, It's hard when you are so unwilling to accept or even consider common sense. You are so far beyond deluded its like your brain is incapable of stringing together thoughtful rational sentences...

There is far too much truth in this post than i ever thought possible. +1000000, you win the interwebz for the day.

Zero999 said:

bolded: I'll disagree on that. in real life, people notice when you walk right in their view range, specially if you're noisy.

Nice catch :P



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i also didn't like how joel is an idiot. he wears a broken watch the whole game, even after someone tells him.



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TheProphet said:

So I'm playing Last of Us and enjoying it for the most part. The graphics are great. The game play is smooth and interesting. The music is nothing special, but sets the atmosphere well. My beef is with the limited understanding of reality by the game developers. The young girl in the gamee, Ellie is obscene, and disrespectful of her elders. And for somee reason, with next to no experience in life she is somehow endowed with a deeper understanding of life than Joel, the adult. An adult female at the beginning of the game is extremely violent which is such an unrealistic portrayal of women. Do the game developers think that they are being 'progressive' by living in a delusion. What do you think? Also, the game developers leave it up to Ellie, the young girl  to decide whether there is a heaven or not. And of course she selfconfidentally says she doesn't think so. So according to the game deveelopers there is no point to life. Life is crap, we live and die, and that's it. This is the shallowest, unthoughtful point of view that I can imagine. There is no rational reason to believe this point of view. And there is no reason given to support this nihilism. So are game developers good at graphics and stupid at life. What do you think?


Wow...you really don't understand women at all, especially girls growing up in todays world. This is shockingly ignorant.

Your name being the prophet....gives me a clue into your semi-sexist mindset.



TheProphet said:

If that is typical behaviour to you than I feel sorry for you. I had no idea teenagers with no life experience could be more knowledgable about life than an adult. I guess in your case it is true. I would never have believed that. Thanks for the info.


She has life experience and common sense, but she was born after the apocalypse. Shes disorderly, truthful, untrusting of most. Makes a whole lot of sense. That and the girl is a tomboy. Ever heard of one of those? She knows nothing of what the world was before the apocalypse, which is why Joel has to teach her. Im not going to spoil the game for others but Joel is the teacher/unwilling parent.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
TheProphet said:

So I'm playing Last of Us and enjoying it for the most part. The graphics are great. The game play is smooth and interesting. The music is nothing special, but sets the atmosphere well. My beef is with the limited understanding of reality by the game developers. The young girl in the gamee, Ellie is obscene, and disrespectful of her elders. And for somee reason, with next to no experience in life she is somehow endowed with a deeper understanding of life than Joel, the adult. An adult female at the beginning of the game is extremely violent which is such an unrealistic portrayal of women. Do the game developers think that they are being 'progressive' by living in a delusion. What do you think? Also, the game developers leave it up to Ellie, the young girl  to decide whether there is a heaven or not. And of course she selfconfidentally says she doesn't think so. So according to the game deveelopers there is no point to life. Life is crap, we live and die, and that's it. This is the shallowest, unthoughtful point of view that I can imagine. There is no rational reason to believe this point of view. And there is no reason given to support this nihilism. So are game developers good at graphics and stupid at life. What do you think?


Wow...you really don't understand women at all, especially girls growing up in todays world. This is shockingly ignorant.

Your name being the prophet....gives me a clue into your semi-sexist mindset.

Just look at history. Who fights in wars men, not women. Who is in prison for violence, a lot of men and very few woment. And btw, women have babies, so logically their anatomy is designed to support that task, attracting a mate, having a womb, breasts to nuture. Do women go hunting and fishing or to the beauty parlor. Are they more interested than men in raising children, feeding, clothing, etc. You are problably don't have any children yourself. So take it from someone who really knows women, who have made new lifes with them, woman are not the same as men.



wow the ignorance and close mindedness is astounding.. I wake up everyday fortunate that im not like that.

i would say you must be a troll, but living near a bible belt, i know people such as you exist. its rather sad and a bit scary



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TheProphet said:

Just look at history. Who fights in wars men, not women. Who is in prison for violence, a lot of men and very few woment. And btw, women have babies, so logically their anatomy is designed to support that task, attracting a mate, having a womb, breasts to nuture. Do women go hunting and fishing or to the beauty parlor. Are they more interested than men in raising children, feeding, clothing, etc. You are problably don't have any children yourself. So take it from someone who really knows women, who have made new lifes with them, woman are not the same as men.


This sounds familliar. Are you Judge Grady from Grand Theft Auto IV? If so, I loved another one of your sexist quotes:

"Ha! That's right. That's right! That's ingenuity right there. That's what got us out of the primordial soup and into the luxury condos and plasma TV's and robotic dogs. Good goin'! I like your style! Now see girl? That's why you are the undisputed weaker sex and we are humiliating you on the radio. Name one woman wrestler who's any good. Name the first woman on the Moon. Ah, trick question. Name one woman pro football player. How many women wrote Shakespeare's plays? Answer me! You can't. And you...are gonna have to go through life as the weaker sex. I mean, tell me girl, did you deserve all this?"

You have a very accurate depiction of the world.