Do not tell me if I'm a fan of something when you know nothing about me you poor excuse for a Microsoft shrill.

I'll tell you what I'm not.

I'm not some dipshit fanboy who blindly praises everything a certain company does. I've owned most of the consoles ever released and I enjoy all types of games from all different developers.

Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft. They all have their upsides and downsides. 

You know what's worse than DRM, compulsory installs, red rings, credit card leaks, underpowered systems with crappy online, and micro-transactions?

FOOLS LIKE YOU!

Yes, fanboys are the worst part of the gaming industry because they are happy to bend over and take whatever their "team" does to them.

Have Microsoft ever done anything wrong in your eyes?

If there was a block button on this site you would be the first fanboy I would use it on.

I'm sick of seeing your constant dribble throughout these forums defending every move Microsoft makes because you have some kind of sick, religious praise for all things holy Gates and lord Ballmer do.

You are what's wrong with this industry.

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-Smeags

Way to negatively personal to be considered an appropriate response.

Yes, I feel MS made mistakes and no, I didn't support them with the X1 reveal. But I had hope they would change...and they are. Funny, I see this forum as the opposite, defending a certain other company no matter what they do.

But in the end, what MS does or doesn't do has no bearing on your enjoyment of a quality video game. If your a real Forza fan, you wouldn't make a big deal out of this......thinking that you'll tragically have no internet on the day you buy the game. What total bs thinking for a supposed Forza fan. You play while you download anyway. This is a non issue, and I doubt your internet is half as spotty as you somehow WANT it to be.

well this shit (so see I don't think is good) is really no big deal for the majority in all honesty.... should it be a usual thing heck no....

but if it guarantees me a better forza at launch than if they didn't pick that option, that's good.... in other word while I do not support the habit, if they have asked me if I'd prefer a delayed forza at launch, a halfassed forza at launch with no mandatory DLC. or a Forza at launch complete but with mandatory DLC, I would have signed for the last one without hesitation.....


and wick while agree with compulsory installs, red rings, credit card leaks, underpowered systems with crappy online

I'm convinced micro transaction could be a great business model to make some games better while making them financially viable.... take a game like asura's wrath instead of selling it full at 60 bucks or whatnot... serialize it.... sell one episode every week for a couple bucks and/or do a season pass...
RPG could work well like that too... I don't give a damn about playing some classes... why do I have to pay for them give us option .... well I'll stop here or it will completely divert this thread.... but micro transaction are not bad at all for anybody (cust and dev) when implemented properly....

and? where are the problem?

here you guys go that are still complaing

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/18/forza-motorsport-5-install-offline-details-clarified

but what if my Internet is down every single time I boot up Forza 5?

then how would you dl the patch to remove the 24hr check in?

and you can still play offline from the disc without the dl  

Another storm in a teacup.

17 pages of nothing

17 pages ???? we don't have the same link ???