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Eddie_Raja on 15 July 2013
KingdomHeartsFan said:

What did they classify as a PC gamer, I mean I play League of Legends but that's the only PC game I play and I just play it on my regular laptop.  I don't really classify myself as a PC gamer.

So you  game on PC... But you are not a PC gamer... Logic much?



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

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Eddie_Raja on 15 July 2013
DevilRising said:
The problem with a thread/statement like this, is that talking about "PC Gaming" NOW, as opposed to even 10-15 years ago, is a hugely different thing. Once upon a time, console gaming and pc gaming were totally different things. Every once in awhile you'd see a port of a game from one to the other. But it there was a distinct difference between console games and pc games. They were two different worlds of gaming, and two you could enjoy seperately. And as such, "PC Gamers" back then were a totally different breed as well.

Nowadays I find more and more so-called "PC Gamers" who don't necessarily like what used to be considered po games, so much as they just like/prefer playing ports of console games on their PC, via Steam or what have you. It's become a melting pot, and to me, that's not "PC Gaming". That's just ports of console games, played on pc (often with console-like controllers, or in some cases using straight up PS3 or Xbox 360 controllers).

So if "PC Gamers" have grown as a crowd, it's not that actual pc games have become more popular, but that many former console gamers have migrated with the same games they would be playing on home systems, for their computers. That's my take on it anyway.

And there is nothing wrong with that.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

zarx on 15 July 2013
DamnTastic said:
Pemalite said:

Well. PC you get higher profit margins on games sold, you don't have Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo taking a percentage of the sale.

Valve takes 30% of every game sold on steam.


which is about the same as the XBLA cut and the PSN cut. For retail it's worse tho

less than 50% to the publisher

Also on consoles you have to pay for cert and dev kitts.



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DamnTastic on 15 July 2013

zarx said:
which is about the same as the XBLA cut and the PSN cut. For retail it's worse tho

I know that, I was just pointing it out to that guy.



zarx on 15 July 2013
DamnTastic said:

zarx said:
which is about the same as the XBLA cut and the PSN cut. For retail it's worse tho

I know that, I was just pointing it out to that guya

fair enough, worth pointing too that Steam is not the only avenue to sell games on PC. Minecraft for example 11.3m copies sold directly 100% revenue (minus tax and paypal fees etc) direct to the developer.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 15 July 2013

Renowned anal-ysts predict PC will rule gaming world together with Ouya, PSV, Wii U and some others, crushing PS4 and XBOne.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=164666&page=1#



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sniper989 on 15 July 2013

including facebook & flash games



aikohualda on 15 July 2013

really?

one thing.... candy crush....

people in the gaming world tries to deny the existence of candy crush just like what they did to farmville....



 

Alby_da_Wolf on 15 July 2013
sniper989 said:
including facebook & flash games


Yea, we know, it's mean, unfair and unbelievably low-standard for teh PC Master Race, but business is business.   



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Eddie_Raja on 15 July 2013
zarx said:
DamnTastic said:
Pemalite said:

Well. PC you get higher profit margins on games sold, you don't have Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo taking a percentage of the sale.

Valve takes 30% of every game sold on steam.


which is about the same as the XBLA cut and the PSN cut. For retail it's worse tho

less than 50% to the publisher

Also on consoles you have to pay for cert and dev kitts.

Very interesting.  Essentially games could be sold for $40-$50 at the same profit margins if sold direct from sony/MS digitally.  They better sell new games for $55 at the most then in their dgital form...



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]