Yeah no duh it's a patent, my post you quoted even says "Sony patent". The rest of your post is irrelevant. Internet is optional on the Xbox One as well, which would make all this tin foil hattery null and void, if it weren't already, due to sheer common sense.

I'm sorry but the idea that MS is NOT trying to be a content provider doesn't make any sense. Why include, and BRAG about having the most television content on the xb1? You have your football. You have your sports, you have netflix, and the dozen of similar streaming apps, you even have to pay to access them (like a cable subscriber), you have your gamer tv. And they say, "this is your One device"....and to use cable...you need a special cable box on top of it all. Not just any cable box, but a special microsoft cable box that acts as an in between. If they didn't want to go into content provision, why set themselves up as 'the one device to rule them all'...'the only device you need'?

Do you really think MS won't be collecting data on what you're watching? It has it's own damn cable search menu! You literally use the xbox to navigate your cable. Saying "Oh they're not interested", is basically calling them incompetant, because they have the perfect opportunity to gather info.....but aren't interested. They aren't interested in what's currently one of the most lucrative markets in the world.

Maybe they won't be doing the advertising, but they definitely will be sending your info over to all their partners.

If you don't think they will do this, simply because you haven't heard from the grapevine, it's probably because either MS is keeping it close to their chest, or they're actively downplaying it. We already know that MS will be tailoring its ads toward the user's taste. That's just a step away from hundreds of millions of dollars in user information sales.

Patents get filed all the time. 99% of them never amount to anything. So you using that patent as some sort of proof or something is laughable.

Per usual you're getting worked up and defensive over nothing.

The only thing that pic was "proof" of is that anyone can take something from a company and make a tin foil hat conspiracy thread about it. Thanks for confirming my pic was as valid as the OP in this thread.

You're just talking conspiracies happening in your head. Go read Xbox One cable box spec again. 

"Connect your cable or satellite box to Xbox One and watch all your favorite television shows right through the console. All your favorite channels. All your favorite shows..."

No special cable box needed...

Besides Microsoft is already collecting all kinds of data on your Xbox Live and your viewing/playing habbits. Netflix is doing this as well when you go in to their app. Everyone is pretty much.  Cable companies are already collecing data on viewing habbits of users through cable with their high end cable boxes. This isn't anything new...

You give Microsoft Advertising way more credit in saying that they are competent enough to pull off something like this and blindside the advertising industry. That part of the company is a trainwreck for the most part... Look up what happened with their 6 billion writeoff with AQuantive advertising deal they signed few years back. 

Um....im not a terrorist. Therefore this means nothing to me. Same goes for you.....I hope.

My apologies, I thought I remembered reading that cable would require a 99$ set-top box, but I guess not.

But no, excuses are besides the point. I don't care about what they're using for advertising purposes. I didn't write any of my posts with the intention of demonizing MS as spies. All I did was state what the goal seemed to be, and it just looks like you're confirming that and arguing some other points. Ok, they're not becoming advertising suppliers. Ok, they're not becoming a content provider (though I disagree)....but they sure as hell are using this entire system to sell your info.

Like I said though. I don't care what they sell. Everyone does it. For some consumers who want the conveniences of kinect and the like, it's awesome.

For a gamer who has no interest in having "the one device (that still needs a set-top box)" or kinect, it's not awesome.

There are two viewpoints to consider. The business minded who thinks this is a great idea, and the gamer who thinks they're getting ripped off.

Get off your high horse, implying the console isn't worth defending. I happen to like it for the games its offers.

But many companys, notably cable companies with their cable boxs, do it now. It is just the way it is. Might as well use the kinect for the convienence it offers.

Sad to say I came to this conclusion aminute afer the original reveal.

Oh your so full of it. All corporations are the same. Even your perceptions of other corproations are the result of their own successful marketing campaigns.