your friend is cool and that game is cool, im still playing it

I honestly have a huge deal of respect towards Iwata, the guy is very respectable.

could not agree more

Right... that hardly means anything to investors at all, does it, my overly smart friend.

The fact is most japanese big companies were sucessful on more than doubling their market values after the confidence boost the government brought with their new exchange rate policies. Factor this one out and investor confidence have been steadily dropping for over five years now. Awful.

What are we supposed to base his career on if we can't base it off of the last generation? The Wii and DS were basically his doing, his only doing as a console creator/developer/whatever. He didn't come up with the GameBoy Advance or the GameCube, so all we have to go off of is his major success last generation. He brought Nintendo out of the toilet, so to speak.

Now, you could argue that it was his mistake that the 3DS was a completely dead console for weeks on end after it launched (to record breaking numbers, I think), but he seemingly fixed that and the 3DS is now an extremely competitive console.

I get what you're saying, Kres. But it's not like he has been a CEO long enough for us to have a log on all of his successes and failures. As of now, we have three successes and one possible failure. (That is, if that "failure" doesn't start pulling up this Holiday.)

Yes he is. He does environments and stuff. He's at Ubisoft Toronto right now working on the new Splinter Cell.

But that's where the Kutaragi point comes in, Pie.  Kutaragi designed the (still!) two highest selling home consoles ever.  And he completely & utterly ballsed up the PS3 beyond belief.  Was the reaction supposed to be - "but hey, he did some stuff right in the past, let's just let this one slide eh?".  Like I said; past success isn't a measure that someone is the right person for a job in the present.  The thing that bothers me most about Iwata, personally, is this:

1) Wii has a games drought after launch.  "But it won't happen again" says Iwata, before the launch of the 3DS.

2) 3DS has a games drought after launch.  "But it won't happen again" says Iwata, before the launch of the Wii-U.

3) Wii-U has a games drought after launch.  See where I'm going with this?

I'm sure there are multiple reasons at play for why this occurred.  But I just find it pretty unexcusable by the third take.  And the point I'm trying to make with this being - why is this still happening?  Why are we waiting until the holidays for Wii-U to become a competitive console?  What happened since 2011 when Wii developed dried up?

I'm not saying Iwata can't turn this around.  In fact, I believe he can - and in the post you quoted I said that I don't have any strong feelings about whether he stays or goes, because I don't.  But I don't think "because he made the Wii & DS" is a good enough reason for why we should look the other way.

No he should not...

Update!! I posted a video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=esRMX0gbyQ8#t=1902s

Taking the jump to CD in the 32bit era was a HUGE gamble, and it wasn't that Nintendo doesn't aspire to become bigger. After all, they didn't become the dominant marketshare from sitting back and doing nothing on their NES and SNES consoles. The fact of the matter was that moving your established system to CD was a HUGE gamble, despite the size and cost benefits, Nintendo's concern was piracy, something they went as far as to put a microprocessor in each cartridge in the NES and SNES in order to thwart it. CDs also suffered from incredibly shocking access times, whereas at least with the Famicom and the FDS, they had the cartridge slot to fall back on. Nintendo saw what happened with the SegaCD and it spooked the hell out of them to make a system that only used CDs, which until up to that point, was a market failure in the games industry until the PlayStation came around.