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Is the Nintendo WiiU truely next generation?

Yes of course, ugh we been over this 146 62.39%
 
I dont Care! Im just here to play video games 35 14.96%
 
No! the wiiu is not next ... 53 22.65%
 
Total:234
AnthonyW86 on 01 July 2013

The difference between Dreamcast and Xbox is bigger than PS360 and Wii-U, so teh Wii-U being more powerfull overall than PS360 does noet make it next gen. Also Wii-U doesn't do GPGPU so pure from a power perspective it is not next gen.

Though since it is the succesoor of the Wii it is still belongs to the next gen of consoles, no matter how big the performance difference.



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Egann on 01 July 2013

The Wii U is actually the first step outside of the generational cycle. The PS4 and XB1 both are much more powerful, but they remain bound into the console generation by their designs. They still compete with other consoles and entertainment center functions over the TV screen.

The Wii U, though, has a gamepad which adds functionality to any entertainment center, even if it already has other consoles in it. Forget working well with the PS4: the Wii U can naturally coexist with the Playstation 7.

The only problem I have with the Wii U as a gen 8 console is that it really needed an expansion pack slot like the N64. GPU and CPU stats are "good enough" but developers will feel squeezed by 2GB of RAM by midlife. That, and the expansion pack model would certainly work better with today's video game market and a 10-year cycle than it did in the 90's with a five year cycle.



dsgrue3 on 01 July 2013

You can build a significantly weaker console than your competitors and compete if you're innovative (Wii).
You can't if you aren't (Wii U).

Doesn't matter which generation you put Wii U in; no one wants it anyway as is reflected by the sales.

And Wii U is not next gen in the sense of graphics, which is one of the few things debatable. If you're just talking about a successor...that isn't arguable...obviously...



hunter_alien on 01 July 2013
anthony64641 said:

hunter_alien said:



anthony64641 said:

Miguel_Zorro said:



anthony64641 said:



2. The Specs of the Wii U are better than the PS3, 360, Wii, and every other home console to date.

While not the biggest leap in specs, the Wii U is stronger than the PS3 and 360. The Wii U has more ram, can run games in 1080p/60 FPS, and already has games that look just as good or better than their PS3/360 counterparts, Need for speed most wanted and Call of Duty Black Ops 2 are all good examples of this. The Wii U Zelda Demo looked better than a majority of the PS3 and 360 games out in the market and it wasn’t even finished. As developers get a hang of the system the graphics will get better and better. A lot of gamers feel the next generation is going to be just like this generation with the Wii being vastly underpowered. The PS3 and 360 were both roughly 20x more powerful than the PS2 and Xbox 1. Does anybody really think the PS4 and 720 are going to be 20x more powerful than the PS3 and 360? Cause that’s the kind of power those systems need to blow the Wii U out of the water, relative to last generation at at least. Microsoft is more likely to go on the cheaper side because of Kinect and Sony doesn’t want a repeat of the PS3 launch with a $600 price tag. However, I do feel Sony will have the strongest system next generation.




You know the specs for the Xbox One and the PS4 are already public, right?
If the WiiU was truly next generation, you wouldn't have to create threads to try to convince people that it's a next generation console.
Look at the comparison.  It's not even close. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(eighth_generation)
A few facts...
The system bandwidth of the PS4 is 176 GB/s.  For the XBoxOne, it's 68.3 GB/s.  For the WiiU/PS3/360, it's 12.8 GB/s, 22.4 GB/s, and 21.6 GB/s
RAM - PS4/XBox One/Wii U/PS3/360 = 8GB GDDR5, 8GB DDR3, 2GB DDR3,512MB combination, 512MB GDDR3 +10MB EDRAM. The absolute gap between the PS4 and the WiiU is larger than the gap between the WiiU and the PS3.  On a ratio basis, they're the same at 4x.
I could go on, but it's not about the specs for the Wii U.  People who want to play Nintendo franchised will buy it anyways.  But from a technology perspective, it's halfway between the PS3/360 and the PS4/X1.



LOL aww look somebody can read, how nice xD. yea ok on paper your right. but do you even know how the processors even work? Do you even know how much ram is available for games?? first off...Mmm i really dont feel like giving you a tech lesson but ok think about this. back in gen 6 remember the fantastic ps2? it was the WEAKEST console in the generation lol comparing the graphics to the gamecube was laughable at how advanced the GC was compared to it but hey guess who WON that generation?





Not really... the GC was more powerfull but not PS4/WiiU more powrfull. The PS4 and X1 simply humiliates the WiiU graphically.

... But like i said: the samething happen with the GC and ps2... your statement has now became invalid


Not really. there is a difference when you can compete to soem degree on horsepower and when you simply cant. This was obvious when the motion sensation faded with the Wii, and the WiiU has nothing going for it. Its funny, how some still believe (hope?) that the WiiU has any chance left for 1st or even 2nd place.

Iwata needs to make a miracle, if not this will be yet another generation when Nintendo survives on its handheld system alone.



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AgentZorn on 01 July 2013

The only things you are going to get out of this thread are a headache and possibly a ban. Just stop and enjoy whatever games are coming out for the Wii U because software is far more important than hardware.