Just noticed that Square Enix is pretty inconsistent in their usage of DRM...
There's probably other examples too, but the question is... why. They also don't really seem to care about their old titles at all, judging by the Denuvo presence - which doesn't really surprise me, sadly.
haxxiy said:
A half-node jump to N3, that is. The leap from Samsung's N8 to TSMC's N5 was much bigger. Assuming Nvidia releases another ~600 mm² chip first like the 4090, that's a 17% transistor increase from the 5090 with either 35% less power consumption or 15% higher clocks (going by TSMC's estimates). So it would be rather comparable to this generation's performance increase, barring some crazy IPC boost. |
Well hopefully they will try harder than that or bring out new tech for the next generation of gpus. While we are approaching limitations of node shrinks, Nvidia could give us a bigger die but who knows.
| Zkuq said: Just noticed that Square Enix is pretty inconsistent in their usage of DRM...
There's probably other examples too, but the question is... why. They also don't really seem to care about their old titles at all, judging by the Denuvo presence - which doesn't really surprise me, sadly. |
SE works in mysterious ways that many would consider to make very little sense
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| Jizz_Beard_thePirate said: The requirements also show that a RT capable gpu is required. I think next gen, we will be firmly in the "Ray Tracing" era where you will need a Ray Tracing capable GPU if you even want to launch the game let alone play at max settings. |
Good luck getting the rest of the market to sell their kidneys to get cards that can actually handle RT without it running like complete arse. The past few gens so far I've only ever seen the higher end managing to do both RT and not completely shit the bed. Everything else has to be scaled back, to the point of where you barely see much of the RT.
What these studios are going to be asking for is to shell out for the cheapest GPU's, just so you can crank RT to the lowest it can go and being somewhat happy with smears and ghosting up the wazoo in their games. Yeah I get RT is the future, but the way Nvidia and AMD are rolling with it isn't consumer friendly, and the devs are kinda throwing optimisation on their end to the winds, meaning the customer is having to spend more for a GPU, more for the power bill, for a smeary look, and all for some slightly "realistic" lighting, semi realistic shadows and reflections that you shouldn't be spending most of your gaming sessions looking at in the first place.
Whilst we still have Crysis to look back on, it's not going to age gracefully forever. Indie games and games that choose an ever lasting style and know what fx to put in tend to age better, be less demanding and are generally easier to remember. Doom 16 looked good back when it came out, but today to me?, nah it's rather muddy looking and hasn't aged well compared to the latest. The new Doom game will follow the same route with the style it's chosen.
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Chazore said:
Good luck getting the rest of the market to sell their kidneys to get cards that can actually handle RT without it running like complete arse. The past few gens so far I've only ever seen the higher end managing to do both RT and not completely shit the bed. Everything else has to be scaled back, to the point of where you barely see much of the RT. What these studios are going to be asking for is to shell out for the cheapest GPU's, just so you can crank RT to the lowest it can go and being somewhat happy with smears and ghosting up the wazoo in their games. Yeah I get RT is the future, but the way Nvidia and AMD are rolling with it isn't consumer friendly, and the devs are kinda throwing optimisation on their end to the winds, meaning the customer is having to spend more for a GPU, more for the power bill, for a smeary look, and all for some slightly "realistic" lighting, semi realistic shadows and reflections that you shouldn't be spending most of your gaming sessions looking at in the first place. Whilst we still have Crysis to look back on, it's not going to age gracefully forever. Indie games and games that choose an ever lasting style and know what fx to put in tend to age better, be less demanding and are generally easier to remember. Doom 16 looked good back when it came out, but today to me?, nah it's rather muddy looking and hasn't aged well compared to the latest. The new Doom game will follow the same route with the style it's chosen. |
Yea everything is basically gonna go fake frames up the wazoo. 20fps path tracing with mega geometry with 16x fake frames for $2500 is the future lol. I'll keep my 4090 for a long time.
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| Jizz_Beard_thePirate said: Yea everything is basically gonna go fake frames up the wazoo. 20fps path tracing with mega geometry with 16x fake frames for $2500 is the future lol. I'll keep my 4090 for a long time. |
Y'know it's kind of ironic. I shelled out for my 1080ti at the time, with it's own high end price tag, and it's gotten me by all these years, and you've got your 4090, which should get you by as long as I have. Everyone else below you and me are either having to crank to the lowest possible, or keep upgrading every 1-2 gens a pop.
This is why I'm getting super weary of the AI band-aid as well, because that chart you linked only showed marginal gains when AI tech was enabled, meaning that we really will have to just use Nvidia/AMD's versions of AI just to scrounge that last ounce of performance, even though the gains with cards like the 5090 are already not worth the trade in price + electric bill.
Like if you swapped your 4090 for that 5090, you'd actually be paying more up front and more over time with your elec bill, and you'd also be running hotter temps. I don't even want to imagine what that GPU is going to be like in regions like Australia, Africa, most parts of the US, etc (those areas will likely also spike with their bills, because they'll wanna use their air cons to keep themselves and their GPU's cool).
I'm not gonna lie, but this yr is off to a pretty shitty start lol. Sony with their PSN enforcement blocking me from just seeing their games on Steam, Sega trying to start their own shitty account system, Nvidia just being stupid arrogant and pricing me out of their market entirely, AMD likely going to do the same. What's happened?, why does it feel like I'm being both blocked and pushed out of multiple areas lol? (For real it feels like I have to be born into riches to even game at this point).
For me with this gen of gaming I'm looking at:
I just wanna game man. This used to be a hobby i'd always get hype for.
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