What abput the 60/70 models?, I'm pretty much of the belief that we shouldn't be touching Nvidia cards this gen, because that opening keynote pretty much told us what they have planned this gen: higher prices and exclusive tech locked to one series.

Unrelated, but the more I ehar about 8k gaming, the sillier it sounds.

Like this guy be gawking at the perf he's getting at 8l, like yeah dude, you splurge out an insane amount of dosh, you're bound to get good gains from it.

my main beef with any sort of focus on 4-8k gaming, is that you're technically locking your expectations onto the res alone, meaning you're fucked if you ever wanna play games older than 5 yrs ago, especially games like say, Warcraft 3, which would look fucking ass ugly at 4-8k. 4-8k is pretty much that res where you really wanna show off texture detail and overall crispiness, and well, we're still at that point where it's not really viable to go that route, let alone for 8k, and anything from the past is just gonna look like trash unless 4-8k textures are modded in.

I'm prob gonna hold onto this viewpoint until 4-8k becomes what we see 1080p as, (to an extent, 1440p as well) the norm, but that's unlikely to happen for another 10-15 yrs, esp at the rate the prices are, current eco being gutter trash and middle class dissolving to dust. 

Also lmao at that native 4-8k Cyberpunk benches he did, the perf with pure horsepower from the 4090 looks like shit, and still shows that we're going to be heavily reliant on DLSS/FSR for the foreseeable future, native past 1440p just isn't at all viable if games are going to push RT.

(I swear I also heard coil whine at ^:18 mark, like I could hear metal clinking somewhere inside that case of his, if true that's hella bad for a new setup). 

Well if people buy the 4080s, it basically gives Jensen the aokay to release shit tier prices of the lower end cards. If people don't buy the 80 class, there may be hope yet.

And yea, 8k is a joke. At best, people should get 4k but only really at 32 inches. The rest should be focused on the image quality. Does it have proper HDR? Does it have OLED? Etc. People that buy 8k for PC use are dumb imo.

At this rate, I'm ready to accept that me just not buying anything isn't gonna do anything, because I know there are ppl out there who are more than willing to throw their money into a pit of "who cares, buy product nao", and that I'm likely to be fucked outta Nvidia's market this entire gen, just like I was the last 2.

I just think that the 1% don't even care what sort of example they are setting for the long-term, kinda like the ppl that fed nestle all these decades, and only now just finding out how shitty of a company they really care, I think ppl are eventually gonna wake up to that with nvidia later on down the line, because if this shit isn't gonna phase ppl from buying stupidly chunky, power hungry and expensive cards, then shit surely is gonna need to get worse later on for them to wake up. 

I think the focus on 8k is as the dude says in the vid: bragging rights, but at the same time, what is there to really brag about?, like you get to play at a slightly crispier image quality output and a few less frames?. IQ stopped with me at 1440p, that's why I'm still sticking to 1440p and will likely keep with it for another decade or so until 4k becomes 1080p, but I reckon 1440p will reach 1080['s status symbol before 4k does. 

PC gaming is fucked

4090 launch lineup lmao:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/y1trff/rtx_4090_tustin_california_micro_center_launch_9/

We don't know how good or bad the availability of the card is/will be. There were rumors that the initial stock would be low to push people into buying 3000 series, tho after seeing the performance jump, I don't think that's possible.

And, once again, we shoot ourselves in the foot. Accepting this nw practice from Nvidia won't benefit anyone on our side (gamers), and will only encourage Nvidia and others to keep pushing the boundaries further away from what's reasonable.

That said, the optimistic in me wants to believe that this isn't representative, and that those guys are just there because of the low supply rumors and because they're scared that scalpers will get all the cards and the prices will go up even more.

After all, even the WiiU had a great launch, and we know what happened shortly after. Let's hope somrthing similar, but not as severe, happens with the 4090s.

4K already seems like too much for me since it needs large screens to be really noticeable over 1440p. Hence why I rather play on 27" 1440p screens than buying 32" or even bigger screens for 4K.

Anthony from LTT isn't super happy about the 4090:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THxkY59_xko

The reason for this is beyond the benchmarks. He acknowledges that for content creators, the 4090 is a no-brainer. But for gamers, things are getting more tricky. This is because of things like NVidia still using DP 1.4a, which caps the framerate to the screen at 120 in 4K - something the GPU can easily exceed in several games. Also still being on PCIe 4.0, so if you need to split the GPU lanes for things like NVME storage or other extension cards (again, something that makes sense especially for content creators), there will certainly be a big performance loss that wouldn't be there with PCIe 5.0.

Goodbye Wallet

Bestbuy and Newegg are all sold out of 4090s lmao