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Sega: “We do not have plans to bring (Yakuza) Lost Judgment to PC at this time”

https://www.pcgamesn.com/judgment/lost-judgment-pc

Not sure why Sega are being hoes about this as to my knowledge, 7 sold well



                  

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JEMC said:

Oh, and that 6900H could be a very, very impressive chip, if those rumors were true.

I actually only expected 10CU due to the clock frequencies RDNA2 seems to hit with relative ease, it's sweet spot would definitely be a couple 100mhz higher than with the Vega-derived GPUs. That combined with the 2 additional CU seemed enough to me to bottleneck DDR2-4800 again, but maybe I was wrong or AMD goes with faster RAM right out the gate 



JEMC said:

I'll probably be wrong, but I don't think Valve is in trouble for that lawsuit. Yes, they force price parity at Steam, but publishers can still offer discounts on other stores regardless of what happens on Steam, making the game efectively cheaper on other platforms.

Sony may be in a bigger trouble.

And lol at the Steam guesstimated sales. it's not only baseless in most cases where no official data is known besides th Platinum, Gold, etc classification, but Epic also has the balls to believe that they could have gotten 20% off those sales?

Oh, and that 6900H could be a very, very impressive chip, if those rumors were true.

Yeah putting Steam in the same basket as Sony on that lawsuit seems dumb as anyone and their nan can buy game keys from publishers and sell them cheaper than Steam whilst cutting out any money Valve makes from it in the process.



Captain_Yuri said:

If what you are referring to is porn games, I think it's more so a problem with western culture in general more so than anything. Steam has guidelines but other than that, it's left to the employees to determine what falls under such guidelines and what doesn't which delves greatly into subjective category. But employees  probably are told to go the "safe than sorry" route thanks to payment companies like PayPal hating the idea of associating themselves with companies that sell porn content. As an example, if you were to buy games from DLSite in the past which has Adult and non Adult sections, in the Adult sections, your payment options are quite limited vs non adult sections where you can use Paypal and what not. Hell these days, Paypal isn't even an option for DLsite after the whole pornhub nonsense.

But to each their own. I think Steam is being very progressive in the era where western culture get very cringy when it comes to the topic of sexual content. Allowing adult games in their store even if it's censored versions (and sometimes uncensored versions) allows those games to gain much more sales than they would have if Steam didn't allow them in at all. And thanks to the way that PCs work, it's very easy to uncensor those games. Could they do things better? Sure. But there's a lot more other factors in play than just allow everything or don't and I am sure they would rather not lose a payment company like PayPal.

A western company saying "no" is easy cause everyone does it. Microsoft, EA, GOG, Ubisoft and etc all disallow porn games. A western company saying "yes" is the hard part...

I think he's also forgetting that the Japanese also self censor their own stuff. Like their H anime titles have been censored for decades, and the actual ban the US imposed on Japan since WWII was lifted years ago, only Japan just does it out of some stupid tradition, which makes me wonder why people like AsGryffynn think it's Steam/West that only do this.

I mean, there's even Germany and Australia that censor violence, but that's somehow fine to censor but porn is the final straw?. I dunno, that smells fishy.



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Captain_Yuri said:

Valve and Sony Sued for Establishing Digital Monopolies with Their Stores

https://wccftech.com/valve-and-sony-sued-for-establishing-digital-monopolies-with-their-stores/

Here comes the can of worms that Epic opened

How long until the courts or anyone with two braincells realise Epic is trying to form their own?. Like I can see this and I saw it happening 2 and a half years ago. 



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Captain_Yuri said:

Forgot to put one more piece of news

Sega: “We do not have plans to bring (Yakuza) Lost Judgment to PC at this time”

https://www.pcgamesn.com/judgment/lost-judgment-pc

Not sure why Sega are being hoes about this as to my knowledge, 7 sold well

Since Sega have decided to kick me off the mainline Yakuza train with their new focus on TB combat, I'm only left with the spinoffs, and then they pull this shit?.

Like do they just want real time combat yakuza fans to fuck off or something?.

I always knew Sega wasn't completely reformed. 



Step right up come on in, feel the buzz in your veins, I'm like an chemical electrical right into your brain and I'm the one who killed the Radio, soon you'll all see

So pay up motherfuckers you belong to "V"

Captain_Yuri said:
AsGryffynn said:

And spitting on their faces as well. 

I am starting to feel I might be the sole Epic supporter on this site. I definitely won't stand for Steam though: if you're going to censor, just can the whole thing. Either you do or you don't. I'm tired of the middling bullshit everyone is selling today and Epic seems to be the only store with a spine to say "no" outright. 

If what you are referring to is porn games, I think it's more so a problem with western culture in general more so than anything. Steam has guidelines but other than that, it's left to the employees to determine what falls under such guidelines and what doesn't which delves greatly into subjective category. But employees  probably are told to go the "safe than sorry" route thanks to payment companies like PayPal hating the idea of associating themselves with companies that sell porn content. As an example, if you were to buy games from DLSite in the past which has Adult and non Adult sections, in the Adult sections, your payment options are quite limited vs non adult sections where you can use Paypal and what not. Hell these days, Paypal isn't even an option for DLsite after the whole pornhub nonsense.

But to each their own. I think Steam is being very progressive in the era where western culture get very cringy when it comes to the topic of sexual content. Allowing adult games in their store even if it's censored versions (and sometimes uncensored versions) allows those games to gain much more sales than they would have if Steam didn't allow them in at all. And thanks to the way that PCs work, it's very easy to uncensor those games. Could they do things better? Sure. But there's a lot more other factors in play than just allow everything or don't and I am sure they would rather not lose a payment company like PayPal.

A western company saying "no" is easy cause everyone does it. Microsoft, EA, GOG, Ubisoft and etc all disallow porn games. A western company saying "yes" is the hard part...

I'm referring to them removing games that happen in a school setting, even when they are not even 18+ rated. 

Captain_Yuri said:

Valve and Sony Sued for Establishing Digital Monopolies with Their Stores

https://wccftech.com/valve-and-sony-sued-for-establishing-digital-monopolies-with-their-stores/

Here comes the can of worms that Epic opened


GALAX launches GeForce RTX 3080/3070 LHR series with nerfed Ethereum mining performance

https://videocardz.com/newz/galax-launches-geforce-rtx-3080-3070-lhr-series-with-nerfed-ethereum-mining-performance

Round 2 fight!


[Rumour] AMD Ryzen 9 6900H “Rembrandt” rumored to feature Zen3+ cores and 12 RDNA2 Compute Units

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-6900h-rembrandt-rumored-to-feature-zen3-cores-and-12-rdna2-compute-units


AMD Radeon PRO W6800 features Navi 21 and 32GB of memory

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-pro-w6800-features-navi-21-and-32gb-of-memory


Microsoft reportedly shelves Windows 10X, its Chrome OS competitor

https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/7/22424700/microsoft-windows-10-x-canceled-rumors


Steam 2019 Global Sales numbers (Epic estimates)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/steam-2019-global-sales-numbers-epic-estimates.422489/

Some interesting sales numbers


Epic v Apple: Apple's First Grilling (Day 4) (VL464)

It was overall a good day for Epic as they tried to show how apple did some questionable things. But Apple still seemed quite prepared vs Epic.

Good. Both of these. 

Chazore said:
Captain_Yuri said:

If what you are referring to is porn games, I think it's more so a problem with western culture in general more so than anything. Steam has guidelines but other than that, it's left to the employees to determine what falls under such guidelines and what doesn't which delves greatly into subjective category. But employees  probably are told to go the "safe than sorry" route thanks to payment companies like PayPal hating the idea of associating themselves with companies that sell porn content. As an example, if you were to buy games from DLSite in the past which has Adult and non Adult sections, in the Adult sections, your payment options are quite limited vs non adult sections where you can use Paypal and what not. Hell these days, Paypal isn't even an option for DLsite after the whole pornhub nonsense.

But to each their own. I think Steam is being very progressive in the era where western culture get very cringy when it comes to the topic of sexual content. Allowing adult games in their store even if it's censored versions (and sometimes uncensored versions) allows those games to gain much more sales than they would have if Steam didn't allow them in at all. And thanks to the way that PCs work, it's very easy to uncensor those games. Could they do things better? Sure. But there's a lot more other factors in play than just allow everything or don't and I am sure they would rather not lose a payment company like PayPal.

A western company saying "no" is easy cause everyone does it. Microsoft, EA, GOG, Ubisoft and etc all disallow porn games. A western company saying "yes" is the hard part...

I think he's also forgetting that the Japanese also self censor their own stuff. Like their H anime titles have been censored for decades, and the actual ban the US imposed on Japan since WWII was lifted years ago, only Japan just does it out of some stupid tradition, which makes me wonder why people like AsGryffynn think it's Steam/West that only do this.

I mean, there's even Germany and Australia that censor violence, but that's somehow fine to censor but porn is the final straw?. I dunno, that smells fishy.

Not exactly: I'm referring specifically to the "rather safe than sorry" angle instead of, you know, actually assessing the games they are putting in or putting them in and then simply withdrawing them if PayPal sends a notification. Moreover, this extends to non 18+ games that take place in an school setting (something to share Valve?) and get offed from the store. Like, I'm fine with cutting some content. It's outright forbidding these things that set me off. Had I been Epic when Kecmo came to me for the DOAX PC version, I would've told them I would be releasing it globally or they could go sell it on DMM like they always did. 

Also, IIRC Japanese pixel censoring is mostly vestigial now. They do it because they don't see a point otherwise. Proof? The littany of animanga with what ended up being appropriately called "pointless censor".  

Like, it's one thing to censor genitals because "it was how it was done in the good old days" and "banning this game because it takes place in a Japanese high school setting". 

Since Square Enix where the ones on the receiving end of this, I'd be happy if they tell Valve to go take a hike. As for PayPal, Valve can separate 18+ sections from the rest of the system and limit payment methods there if it'd make PayPal sleep better at night. Also, I don't see them objecting to the purchase of smut from Amazon. 

The "West" should grow a freaking spine. I'm in LatAm now, and they have their priorities straight here: if it's classed over eighteen and kept hidden away, anything goes. Moral guardians be damned. 

Only Eastern Europe is more liberal methinks. Yes, I know the EU isn't. Don't remind me. 



AsGryffynn said:
Captain_Yuri said:

If what you are referring to is porn games, I think it's more so a problem with western culture in general more so than anything. Steam has guidelines but other than that, it's left to the employees to determine what falls under such guidelines and what doesn't which delves greatly into subjective category. But employees  probably are told to go the "safe than sorry" route thanks to payment companies like PayPal hating the idea of associating themselves with companies that sell porn content. As an example, if you were to buy games from DLSite in the past which has Adult and non Adult sections, in the Adult sections, your payment options are quite limited vs non adult sections where you can use Paypal and what not. Hell these days, Paypal isn't even an option for DLsite after the whole pornhub nonsense.

But to each their own. I think Steam is being very progressive in the era where western culture get very cringy when it comes to the topic of sexual content. Allowing adult games in their store even if it's censored versions (and sometimes uncensored versions) allows those games to gain much more sales than they would have if Steam didn't allow them in at all. And thanks to the way that PCs work, it's very easy to uncensor those games. Could they do things better? Sure. But there's a lot more other factors in play than just allow everything or don't and I am sure they would rather not lose a payment company like PayPal.

A western company saying "no" is easy cause everyone does it. Microsoft, EA, GOG, Ubisoft and etc all disallow porn games. A western company saying "yes" is the hard part...

I'm referring to them removing games that happen in a school setting, even when they are not even 18+ rated. 

Chazore said:

I think he's also forgetting that the Japanese also self censor their own stuff. Like their H anime titles have been censored for decades, and the actual ban the US imposed on Japan since WWII was lifted years ago, only Japan just does it out of some stupid tradition, which makes me wonder why people like AsGryffynn think it's Steam/West that only do this.

I mean, there's even Germany and Australia that censor violence, but that's somehow fine to censor but porn is the final straw?. I dunno, that smells fishy.

Not exactly: I'm referring specifically to the "rather safe than sorry" angle instead of, you know, actually assessing the games they are putting in or putting them in and then simply withdrawing them if PayPal sends a notification. Moreover, this extends to non 18+ games that take place in an school setting (something to share Valve?) and get offed from the store. Like, I'm fine with cutting some content. It's outright forbidding these things that set me off. Had I been Epic when Kecmo came to me for the DOAX PC version, I would've told them I would be releasing it globally or they could go sell it on DMM like they always did. 

Also, IIRC Japanese pixel censoring is mostly vestigial now. They do it because they don't see a point otherwise. Proof? The littany of animanga with what ended up being appropriately called "pointless censor".  

Like, it's one thing to censor genitals because "it was how it was done in the good old days" and "banning this game because it takes place in a Japanese high school setting". 

Since Square Enix where the ones on the receiving end of this, I'd be happy if they tell Valve to go take a hike. As for PayPal, Valve can separate 18+ sections from the rest of the system and limit payment methods there if it'd make PayPal sleep better at night. Also, I don't see them objecting to the purchase of smut from Amazon. 

The "West" should grow a freaking spine. I'm in LatAm now, and they have their priorities straight here: if it's classed over eighteen and kept hidden away, anything goes. Moral guardians be damned. 

Only Eastern Europe is more liberal methinks. Yes, I know the EU isn't. Don't remind me. 

Can you show me the game you are referring to so I can get a better understanding since I have seen a number of hentai games that's uncensored on steam that have a school setting.

Hell as an example, Sony and MS both denied Gun Gal Returns but Steam allowed it and that's in a school setting.

Also Paypal isn't the type of company to send notifications. If something blows up like it did with Pornhub, Paypal exists without any warning. Also it could be the fact that I am in Canada but Amazon Canada doesn't support PayPal.

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Captain_Yuri said:
AsGryffynn said:

I'm referring to them removing games that happen in a school setting, even when they are not even 18+ rated. 

Chazore said:

I think he's also forgetting that the Japanese also self censor their own stuff. Like their H anime titles have been censored for decades, and the actual ban the US imposed on Japan since WWII was lifted years ago, only Japan just does it out of some stupid tradition, which makes me wonder why people like AsGryffynn think it's Steam/West that only do this.

I mean, there's even Germany and Australia that censor violence, but that's somehow fine to censor but porn is the final straw?. I dunno, that smells fishy.

Not exactly: I'm referring specifically to the "rather safe than sorry" angle instead of, you know, actually assessing the games they are putting in or putting them in and then simply withdrawing them if PayPal sends a notification. Moreover, this extends to non 18+ games that take place in an school setting (something to share Valve?) and get offed from the store. Like, I'm fine with cutting some content. It's outright forbidding these things that set me off. Had I been Epic when Kecmo came to me for the DOAX PC version, I would've told them I would be releasing it globally or they could go sell it on DMM like they always did. 

Also, IIRC Japanese pixel censoring is mostly vestigial now. They do it because they don't see a point otherwise. Proof? The littany of animanga with what ended up being appropriately called "pointless censor".  

Like, it's one thing to censor genitals because "it was how it was done in the good old days" and "banning this game because it takes place in a Japanese high school setting". 

Since Square Enix where the ones on the receiving end of this, I'd be happy if they tell Valve to go take a hike. As for PayPal, Valve can separate 18+ sections from the rest of the system and limit payment methods there if it'd make PayPal sleep better at night. Also, I don't see them objecting to the purchase of smut from Amazon. 

The "West" should grow a freaking spine. I'm in LatAm now, and they have their priorities straight here: if it's classed over eighteen and kept hidden away, anything goes. Moral guardians be damned. 

Only Eastern Europe is more liberal methinks. Yes, I know the EU isn't. Don't remind me. 

Can you show me the game you are referring to so I can get a better understanding since I have seen a number of hentai games that's uncensored on steam that have a school setting.

Hell as an example, Sony and MS both denied Gun Gal Returns but Steam allowed it and that's in a school setting.

Also Paypal isn't the type of company to send notifications. If something blows up like it did with Pornhub, Paypal exists without any warning. Also it could be the fact that I am in Canada but Amazon Canada doesn't support PayPal.

On censorship of VNs based on inconsistent guidelines with no appeals (also, it wasn't localized by Squeenix. I'm confident I saw something on Otome Break being Steam blacklisted, but this might have just been mistaken identity).  

On the removal of school based games. 

Another one.   

Also... eeeeyyyy, turns out I'm using it through a "workaround method": my Paypal Key. On the other hand, I just checked which payments I've made with Paypal... they include... DMM. Yeah, that's way more "West objectionable" than Amazon. 

 



AsGryffynn said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Can you show me the game you are referring to so I can get a better understanding since I have seen a number of hentai games that's uncensored on steam that have a school setting.

Hell as an example, Sony and MS both denied Gun Gal Returns but Steam allowed it and that's in a school setting.

Also Paypal isn't the type of company to send notifications. If something blows up like it did with Pornhub, Paypal exists without any warning. Also it could be the fact that I am in Canada but Amazon Canada doesn't support PayPal.

On censorship of VNs based on inconsistent guidelines with no appeals (also, it wasn't localized by Squeenix. I'm confident I saw something on Otome Break being Steam blacklisted, but this might have just been mistaken identity).  

On the removal of school based games. 

Another one.   

Also... eeeeyyyy, turns out I'm using it through a "workaround method": my Paypal Key. On the other hand, I just checked which payments I've made with Paypal... they include... DMM. Yeah, that's way more "West objectionable" than Amazon. 

 

Yea I don't doubt that they removed some as it's all subjective to the employee. Some employees have no issues while others think anime is the spawn of Satan. But I don't think they really banned the school setting in general as Steam has had a number of school setting lewd games that came into the store even after those. Hell Gun Gal returns came out this year.

That's not to say that it's not nonsense on Valve's part to not allow those types of games cause without playing those games myself, it certainly sounds like they are more tame than Gun Gal returns which is a school setting game that is pretty perverted.

But at the end of the day, as a whole, Steam is doing much more for the hentai and anime community than any other western store front. They aren't perfect and needs to work on their guidelines but I don't think it makes sense to say that it's better for a store to be like Epic Games and put a hard "No" compared to Steam which is more of Yes with caveats. Almost every week, I see quite a lot of lewd games make it onto Steam. Some are censored, some aren't censored. Those that are censored have easy ways to get the uncensored patches typically in the user reviews or pinned in the forums. But the key here is the developers get to make money which fuels more hentai games. But if Steam were to say a hard "No" like Epic Games is doing, then they aren't helping the community but rather hurting it. And that's why I like Steam cause while they have a long way to go, they are at least going down the path where as many other companies aren't even bothering to start.

And yea, I am sure PayPal treats those kinds of methods differently compared to their integration platform. Although with Amazon, I think it's more the fact that Amazon wants to handle their own payments instead of paying someone like PayPal to do it.



                  

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