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AsGryffynn said:

Captain_Yuri said:

If what you are referring to is porn games, I think it's more so a problem with western culture in general more so than anything. Steam has guidelines but other than that, it's left to the employees to determine what falls under such guidelines and what doesn't which delves greatly into subjective category. But employees  probably are told to go the "safe than sorry" route thanks to payment companies like PayPal hating the idea of associating themselves with companies that sell porn content. As an example, if you were to buy games from DLSite in the past which has Adult and non Adult sections, in the Adult sections, your payment options are quite limited vs non adult sections where you can use Paypal and what not. Hell these days, Paypal isn't even an option for DLsite after the whole pornhub nonsense.

But to each their own. I think Steam is being very progressive in the era where western culture get very cringy when it comes to the topic of sexual content. Allowing adult games in their store even if it's censored versions (and sometimes uncensored versions) allows those games to gain much more sales than they would have if Steam didn't allow them in at all. And thanks to the way that PCs work, it's very easy to uncensor those games. Could they do things better? Sure. But there's a lot more other factors in play than just allow everything or don't and I am sure they would rather not lose a payment company like PayPal.

A western company saying "no" is easy cause everyone does it. Microsoft, EA, GOG, Ubisoft and etc all disallow porn games. A western company saying "yes" is the hard part...

I'm referring to them removing games that happen in a school setting, even when they are not even 18+ rated. 

Chazore said:

I think he's also forgetting that the Japanese also self censor their own stuff. Like their H anime titles have been censored for decades, and the actual ban the US imposed on Japan since WWII was lifted years ago, only Japan just does it out of some stupid tradition, which makes me wonder why people like AsGryffynn think it's Steam/West that only do this.

I mean, there's even Germany and Australia that censor violence, but that's somehow fine to censor but porn is the final straw?. I dunno, that smells fishy.

Not exactly: I'm referring specifically to the "rather safe than sorry" angle instead of, you know, actually assessing the games they are putting in or putting them in and then simply withdrawing them if PayPal sends a notification. Moreover, this extends to non 18+ games that take place in an school setting (something to share Valve?) and get offed from the store. Like, I'm fine with cutting some content. It's outright forbidding these things that set me off. Had I been Epic when Kecmo came to me for the DOAX PC version, I would've told them I would be releasing it globally or they could go sell it on DMM like they always did. 

Also, IIRC Japanese pixel censoring is mostly vestigial now. They do it because they don't see a point otherwise. Proof? The littany of animanga with what ended up being appropriately called "pointless censor".  

Like, it's one thing to censor genitals because "it was how it was done in the good old days" and "banning this game because it takes place in a Japanese high school setting". 

Since Square Enix where the ones on the receiving end of this, I'd be happy if they tell Valve to go take a hike. As for PayPal, Valve can separate 18+ sections from the rest of the system and limit payment methods there if it'd make PayPal sleep better at night. Also, I don't see them objecting to the purchase of smut from Amazon. 

The "West" should grow a freaking spine. I'm in LatAm now, and they have their priorities straight here: if it's classed over eighteen and kept hidden away, anything goes. Moral guardians be damned. 

Only Eastern Europe is more liberal methinks. Yes, I know the EU isn't. Don't remind me. 

Can you show me the game you are referring to so I can get a better understanding since I have seen a number of hentai games that's uncensored on steam that have a school setting.

Hell as an example, Sony and MS both denied Gun Gal Returns but Steam allowed it and that's in a school setting.

Also Paypal isn't the type of company to send notifications. If something blows up like it did with Pornhub, Paypal exists without any warning. Also it could be the fact that I am in Canada but Amazon Canada doesn't support PayPal.

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 08 May 2021