JEMC said:
Wow. Why all that rage? Why do you take it as if I'm attacking Valve/Steam? I'm just taking away all the romanticism around it and bringing it to the same level as the other stores, because that's what all of them are: simple stores owned by companies that want to make money. Nothing more, nothing less.
And yes, Steam is a better client overall, but a big part of that comes from the fact that they are the oldest of them all, giving them time to improve and evolve. Look at the amazing Workshop, for example, that came out almost 10 years after the launch of Steam itself. Besides GOG, that pursues a different goal, what other store out there has 10 years?
And just to make it clear, I don't have any kind of feelings regarding Steam or any of the other stores. Sure, some are more annoying than the others, like UPlay, but that's about it.
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Rage?. You must be attaching emotions to what I'm typing, rather than me as a person, but alright I'll indulge that part of you.
I don't see it as an "attack" on Valve. I am fully well aware of what each and every company has done up to this point in time, and so far, Valve aren't voted "Worst company in the world" twice, which should tell you something when comparing one company to another.
You see, whenever you bring something down to the level of others, you also have to bring the others to a whole new level, otherwise you're simply taking away the positives of the one you're bringing down, while leaving everyone else to contain their pros and cons, neither raising nor lowering them to another level entirely. You claim to remove "romanticism", but I've never had any to begin with. When a feature exists, it exists, there is nothing romantic about acknowledging and praising a feature that exists to benefit the consumer. When another store lacks what the other has, they are not seen nor treated as equals, and guess what?, we have plenty of those differences outside of this industry alone and have done for centuries.
The general belief that they are all the same is amusing, if not narrow minded and purposely simplistic. If you want to simplify everything to it's core, then every business around the globe needs money to exist, but that acknowledgement doesn't add to anything nor give much to roll with in terms of this discussion.
No, age doesn't have much to do with it, it does play a part, but not a core major role, because if we apply time to the other clients, then time has done zilch for Uplay, Origin and Battlenet (the network and the client separately) . The changes in the market and the responses from other clients are what played a part, as well as general talks with and outside of Steam, as well as Valve itself. Things like the refund system were introduced thanks to a form of competition and word of mouth from Origin's refund system. It wasn't based solely on "time" telling Valve what to do, no, time doesn't do that, people and actions do.
The workshop is an amalgamation of ideals and concepts, rolled into a single workshop, and yes, time will have played a role with that, but so has modding in general, but again, without the modding and mod support pushes and talks, we'd just have "time" to count, so really it's the modding community at it's core that gets the kudos and the thanks, not time.
What other store bothers with something like the Steam workshop?, no one, do you know why? (and I'd hazard a guess that you do).
I don't hold any feelings between any of the storefronts and clients, but that isn't going to stop me from pointing out what client is anti consumer, what company is the most anti consumer, what company wants more money and what client is absolute crap, and so far, that isn't Steam at the top of the list for those points previously mentioned. I find half of PCGamers authors to being half wits and people who would rather cast us into yet another dark age for PC gaming by going for the likes of Origin, led by an anti-consumer company, and again, yes Steam has done some shit, but Valve hasn't butchered C&C, Dungeon keeper, Theme Hospital, Star Wars, and countless studios that held promise and made great games. When you do all sorts of unspeakable crap like that, it becomes a joke to try comparing Valve to a company like EA, they are nothing alike and nowhere near each other. So anyone that thinks it's better to support EA over Steam will get nothing but contempt from me, because I'd rather we not go to a horrible and cancerous age like that.