i think its the other way, being worse for sony.  You mention the depth and breadth of IPs for sony, but if they keep losing exclusives that cuts into the chunk of IPs it has for itself.  Then the initial investment cost is more important.  If the game people want comes out on both consoles (like madden or call of duty) people will buy the console that is cheaper because why pay more initially to play the same game.  It is true that xbox live costs money, but it would take longer 4 years for become more expensive ($600 vs $400 + 4X$50)

 You have to look at the games that sell the most copies (Madden, GTA, and Call of Duty in america) and ask people if they would buy the same game for a more expensive console.  This is why I think multiplatform games hurt sony more than MS.

 O, and eternal sonata was taken off the ESRB website, you can check it yourself.  It was most likely a mistake, just like GTA:SA for gamecube.  Bioshock has also never been said to be coming to ps3 from the developers... it may eventually, but for right now it is only on microsoft platforms.

What will hurt sony the most is how much Square Enix seems to be liking Nintendo.  I think that Nintendo is taking over the casual gamers, this is what the ps2 had (and why it sold 100 mil)... xbox never had the casual gamers so it isn't really losing its fanbase to the wii...

 just my 2 cents... gotta run

 Failure in Japan, mediocre results in Europe and a fast disappearing lead in America maybe ?

hey, i know that some aren't exclusives to the 360, but they aren't on the wii... i was only posting them because starcraft was talking about a battle between 360 and wii... so any ps3/360 games are fair game right?

Ah, now i remember !

@ eques judicii: "You mention the depth and breadth of IPs for sony, but if they keep losing exclusives that cuts into the chunk of IPs it has for itself. 

I was talking about First Party depth and breadth. Sony has Gran Turismo (Polyphony), God of War (Sony Santa Monica), Ratchet and Clank (Insomniac), Resistance (Insomniac), Killzone (Guerilla), Formula 1 (Sony Liverpool), Heavenly Sword (Ninja Theory), Lair (Factor 5), White Knight Story (Level-5), Uncharted (Naughty Dog), Warhawk (Incognito), Twisted Metal (Incognito), Motorstorm (Sony Liverpool), Wipeout (Sony Liverpool), Shadow of the Colossus (Team Ico) and others I can't think of. Admittedly, a bunch of those aren't huge titles, but they show the breadth of Sony first/second party IPs. It also shows the number of talented developers they've got.

Throw in MGS and FF exclusivity for '08, and you have a very robust lineup.

EDIT: Wow, I forgot my favorite developer, Team ICO. I just threw them on my list, all is right in the world.

If some exclusive 360 3rd party games go multi which rumored they will i think microsoft will be in trouble... they need to buy up as much exclusives as they can to win... as a fan of microsoft they have me puzzled at the release of the Elite.. that was a slap in the face to early adopters.. Team Ninja is supposedly making an exclusive dead or alive game for the ps3.. as reported on 1up.com

 Not really. The next >Gerneration will not have real space for exclusives anymore, unimportant which plattform you are talking about. I would predict most exclusives will be exclusive for a limited time only. The costs to port a game are simply so low, that it is nearly impossible to block this path. 

My point is this,, in order to finish ahead of sony... microsoft needs strong 1st party support in which they do have.. and they also need key...notice what i said.. i said they need key 3rd party exclusives.. both companies are losing exclusives everyday with sony losing more.. but my point ealier is i dont think its beneficial to microsoft if they are losing just as much... they need to convert sony fans or nintendo fans or someone new to their brand as much as they can.. to do that you need exclusives .. key exclusives.. what do you think Kars???

i care more about realibilty of console. http://www.360-gamer.com/xbox360hardwarefailureresults.asp 1381 (40.40%) say they have NOT had a console fail 1329 (38.88%) say they've had one console fail 708 (20.71%) say they've had more than one console fail Overall 2037 (59.60%) of submissions claim to have experienced Xbox 360 hardware failure. If someone thinks, that on x360 won`t be good games, that one is a fool. But it`s better to name games, which will oustand analogs on ps3, not just forza2 or mass effect, which look today awful.