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oni-link on 25 June 2013
Augen said:
I'd instantly put down $20 for a PSN version. Curious why Wii U is selected over it as thought Sony was doing okay working with indies.

It looks like my type of game, has a Dreamcast feel to it. I will debate on it a bit for now, thank you for bringing it up and linking to it.


Probably because Nintendo and Unity's have really partnered up beyond what Unity had done with other companies.  Nintendo went as far as including the Unity Pro engine for all their development kits making the engine the official/preferred engine for the Wii U.  Oh this game is running on the Unity engine so porting would be a lot easier. For Sony's console the indies will have to provide their own engine which cost tens of thousand of dollars if not more.  Regardless this is going to be a stretch goal for both Wii U and VIta.



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oni-link on 25 June 2013
Kresnik said:

oni-link said:

check the updates and they are talking to Sony themselves.  The stretch goal for Wii U and Vita I believe would be 80K so I hope they make it!!!


Yeah, definitely.  I hope Sony pull through, but right now it's only a "we're talking to Sony".  If I put money down now, I'm only guaranteed a PC version.

I'll wait and see.  The gameplay trailer looked very good, though.


I guess they're wondering if they could get the development kits to the same cost as it does for the Wii U (lowest cost development kit and it includes the Unity Engine already if you choose to use that engine) as money is important to such a small developer.



zumnupy10 on 25 June 2013

It smells like 1990' s JRPGs, which is good.



Augen on 25 June 2013
oni-link said:
Augen said:
I'd instantly put down $20 for a PSN version. Curious why Wii U is selected over it as thought Sony was doing okay working with indies.

It looks like my type of game, has a Dreamcast feel to it. I will debate on it a bit for now, thank you for bringing it up and linking to it.


Probably because Nintendo and Unity's have really partnered up beyond what Unity had done with other companies.  Nintendo went as far as including the Unity Pro engine for all their development kits making the engine the official/preferred engine for the Wii U.  Oh this game is running on the Unity engine so porting would be a lot easier. For Sony's console the indies will have to provide their own engine which cost tens of thousand of dollars if not more.  Regardless this is going to be a stretch goal for both Wii U and VIta.

So Vita is no problem but PS3 is?  Curious.  I want this to succeed, but given I don't plan on getting a Wii U until 2015 at the earliest I am hesitant to back it.



oni-link on 25 June 2013
Augen said:
oni-link said:
Augen said:
I'd instantly put down $20 for a PSN version. Curious why Wii U is selected over it as thought Sony was doing okay working with indies.

It looks like my type of game, has a Dreamcast feel to it. I will debate on it a bit for now, thank you for bringing it up and linking to it.


Probably because Nintendo and Unity's have really partnered up beyond what Unity had done with other companies.  Nintendo went as far as including the Unity Pro engine for all their development kits making the engine the official/preferred engine for the Wii U.  Oh this game is running on the Unity engine so porting would be a lot easier. For Sony's console the indies will have to provide their own engine which cost tens of thousand of dollars if not more.  Regardless this is going to be a stretch goal for both Wii U and VIta.

So Vita is no problem but PS3 is?  Curious.  I want this to succeed, but given I don't plan on getting a Wii U until 2015 at the earliest I am hesitant to back it.

It all comes down to cost of the development kit.  Nintendo, has eliminated many hurdles for the indie community one of which is cost of development kits, and putting money down for a game engine etc.  The Unity engine run on all platforms including PS3 if I am not mistaken.  The only diffrence is that the Wii U uses DirectX-11 equivalent functionality while PS3 uses DirectX-8.1 equivalent functionality.  Seeing how this is not a graphically intensive game and a throw back to old school Dreamcast and PS1 (you know when FF--the good ones, Grandia, Tales, Saga frontier, Skies of Arcadia, etc) in HD the PS3 would work really well.  Though I think Vita would be the platform they are looking at the moment since that is what Sony fans are asking for.



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oni-link on 25 June 2013
Augen said:
oni-link said:
Augen said:
I'd instantly put down $20 for a PSN version. Curious why Wii U is selected over it as thought Sony was doing okay working with indies.

It looks like my type of game, has a Dreamcast feel to it. I will debate on it a bit for now, thank you for bringing it up and linking to it.


Probably because Nintendo and Unity's have really partnered up beyond what Unity had done with other companies.  Nintendo went as far as including the Unity Pro engine for all their development kits making the engine the official/preferred engine for the Wii U.  Oh this game is running on the Unity engine so porting would be a lot easier. For Sony's console the indies will have to provide their own engine which cost tens of thousand of dollars if not more.  Regardless this is going to be a stretch goal for both Wii U and VIta.

So Vita is no problem but PS3 is?  Curious.  I want this to succeed, but given I don't plan on getting a Wii U until 2015 at the earliest I am hesitant to back it.


BTW why are you picking up the Wii U so late?  Granted there isn't any must have games at the moment; if a price drop does occur this year (see my other thread) it would be a great pick up with all the upcoming games this year and next!!! Besides isn't X suppose to come next year? I expect that to be just as great as Xenoblade; an JRPG that's way better than any of the FF that has come out of PS360 as of late.



Augen on 25 June 2013
oni-link said:

BTW why are you picking up the Wii U so late?  Granted there isn't any must have games at the moment; if a price drop does occur this year (see my other thread) it would be a great pick up with all the upcoming games this year and next!!! Besides isn't X suppose to come next year? I expect that to be just as great as Xenoblade; an JRPG that's way better than any of the FF that has come out of PS360 as of late.


Well, money is bit tight and I already planning on getting a PS4 in 2014 sometime (Holidays seems likely).  I just got a 3DS XL last year so been saving since then.  Wii U looks fine, but games are trickling out, I got a Wii years after it came out, bought a bunch of games and enjoyed it.  Right now there is nothing that makes me go "I have to get that now!" So I am waiting on the library to develop and hoping base version drops to $200 in the mean time.

I have no issue with the Wii U or Nintendo, I just find I am content to wait on their consoles and get my Mario and Zelda when I get around to buying it.



Augen on 25 June 2013
oni-link said:

It all comes down to cost of the development kit.  Nintendo, has eliminated many hurdles for the indie community one of which is cost of development kits, and putting money down for a game engine etc.  The Unity engine run on all platforms including PS3 if I am not mistaken.  The only diffrence is that the Wii U uses DirectX-11 equivalent functionality while PS3 uses DirectX-8.1 equivalent functionality.  Seeing how this is not a graphically intensive game and a throw back to old school Dreamcast and PS1 (you know when FF--the good ones, Grandia, Tales, Saga frontier, Skies of Arcadia, etc) in HD the PS3 would work really well.  Though I think Vita would be the platform they are looking at the moment since that is what Sony fans are asking for.

Hmmm, I see. Thank you for answering as not always sure how that all works. I wonder if PS4 might be easier for them then since th egame likely won't be out for a while anyways.  Again, I wish this guy and the game success and owuld love to play it some day.



oni-link on 25 June 2013
Augen said:
oni-link said:

It all comes down to cost of the development kit.  Nintendo, has eliminated many hurdles for the indie community one of which is cost of development kits, and putting money down for a game engine etc.  The Unity engine run on all platforms including PS3 if I am not mistaken.  The only diffrence is that the Wii U uses DirectX-11 equivalent functionality while PS3 uses DirectX-8.1 equivalent functionality.  Seeing how this is not a graphically intensive game and a throw back to old school Dreamcast and PS1 (you know when FF--the good ones, Grandia, Tales, Saga frontier, Skies of Arcadia, etc) in HD the PS3 would work really well.  Though I think Vita would be the platform they are looking at the moment since that is what Sony fans are asking for.

Hmmm, I see. Thank you for answering as not always sure how that all works. I wonder if PS4 might be easier for them then since th egame likely won't be out for a while anyways.  Again, I wish this guy and the game success and owuld love to play it some day.

Yeah he seems like a cool guy thus why I am supporting this endeavor for both the Wii U and the Vita.  It's nice to see people follow their dreams despite the hurdles that may prevent them.  I for one, wanted to go into game development when I was young; but instead stayed in the medical field for financial reasons.  Don't get me wrong I am happy, but it would have been nice to follow what you wished for when you are young.   Oh, I completely understand about the lack of games for the Wii U at the moment.  Nintendo really dropped the ball in terms of having enough games available to the public when the system was released.  It was a great launch though and I think they are remedying the situation by making it extremely easy (beyond what had been done for the indies) to create games for them by the independent community.



huiii on 25 June 2013

About the Vita/ps4 version thingy:

 

I posted that in the vita thread two days ago... had to dig real deep to find it again, it's insane how fast that tread moves.

From this it didn't seem like disscussions were verry advanced yet, i hope he's heared back from them by now and hopefully news will be positive.

 

Edit: apparently they did contacti him back and are now haveing talks: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/disastercake/soul-saga-a-j-rpg-inspired-by-playstation-classics/posts/519657