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Heavenly_King said:

But if the BSD is free, shouldnt MacOS be free too (similar to android and linux)?  The last time I checked apple website; you needed to pay for the OS update.

Different licences... that's the reason that Apple and Sony uses BSD instead Linux.

In Linux any app/code created using the Kernel have to be OpenSource... that's different than free... you can price your app like in Windows but you have to publish the code that you create for the community... so any expext can compile the code and run the app after all.

Now BSD not... you can make code in BSD and maintain closed.

BSD licence is way more pro-"proprietary".

 

BTW Open Source and free are different... I can charge for Linux OS and Linux apps like in Windows.



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Hmm, obvious choice. They needed an existing OS because they can't make one on their own. They needed an OS where you can do what you want while relying on the brainpower of others without giving anything back.
They needed a sleek OS without much stuff unnecessary. Of course they also could've used netbsd or openbsd but they are going for other goals than freebsd. Could still mean that's good for hacking-efforts ;)
But really, by now this is news-worthy but that's all. They had and most probably still have a lot to do in the user-land apps. Let's hope they don't violate the GPL of other software while developping stuff for PS4.



Heavenly_King said:

I guess it is a similar case to the smartphones right now.  They use android because it is free and good; and there are already plenty of tools for it.  So this OS is free; for what they are doing is good; and as it has more time in the developer space, it has more tools for it.

People alway say Android OS. In fact Android smartphones are linux based. Android is a Java aplication/framework and somethig more, but still - your Samsung runs Linux OS.



walsufnir said:
Hmm, obvious choice. They needed an existing OS because they can't make one on their own. They needed an OS where you can do what you want while relying on the brainpower of others without giving anything back.
They needed a sleek OS without much stuff unnecessary. Of course they also could've used netbsd or openbsd but they are going for other goals than freebsd. Could still mean that's good for hacking-efforts ;)
But really, by now this is news-worthy but that's all. They had and most probably still have a lot to do in the user-land apps. Let's hope they don't violate the GPL of other software while developping stuff for PS4.

I think if there are any OS in the world today created from zero... every OS is based in cores alreadys created before... nobody creates the wheels again.



Xenobot said:

People alway say Android OS. In fact Android smartphones are linux based. Android is a Java aplication/framework and somethig more, but still - your Samsung runs Linux OS.

True .

Android is a Linux running a custom JVM... that is main reason it needs strong hardware and the battery management is meh (the JVM needs to be always up using OS/CPU resources).



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Both Linux and BSD uses the same Unix core guys... they are similar and most apps on Linux works on BSD.

freeBDS (KDE)... you will say it is a Linux (KDE) with Firefox, Thunderbird, etc apps lol



LemonSlice said:
ethomaz said:

LemonSlice said:

How much do consoles gain in performance thanks to no overhead?

It's way relation to make this comparison... Camark said one time that with consoles without all PC overhead runs games in the same hardware with twice performance.

But here we are talking only about driver overhead that I guess it's the small overhead to be compared.

Wow! O_O

Will that be true even for next gen?

Yeah.  There's a huge abstraction when using Direct X APIs.  It doesn't talk directly to the hardware.



LemonSlice said:

Wow! O_O

Will that be true even for next gen?

I guess so... consoles games are way more optimized than PC games (one needs to run in diffents specs and other only one spec).

Here the Carmark twitte... March 2011... not too old.



ethomaz said:

LemonSlice said:

Wow! O_O

Will that be true even for next gen?

I guess so... consoles games are way more optimized than PC games (one needs to run in diffents specs and other only one spec).

Here the Carmark twitte... March 2011... not too old.

Thanks. Then you certainly can't build a comparable PC for very little money.



darkknightkryta said:

Yeah.  There's a huge abstraction when using Direct X APIs.  It doesn't talk directly to the hardware.


abstraction - is a key word in this PC/console discussion.

Both PC hardware and PC software suffer on performance and gain on compatibility because of lots of abstraction layers.

(sorry for poor english - please correct me if it sounds too bizarre)