No doubt kinect being in the box will increase adoption, but then again the potential of the kinect, even this super upgrade, might turn out to not be very good. We will have to wait and see. I'm only really interested in voice controls for navigation, if they aren't laggy.

I don't mind the xbox controller, but I've never found a problem with the dualshock like some people do. The analog sticks are only uncomfortable because you need to adjust to each controller to gain muscle memory. It goes for both controllers. From the looks of it the Dualshock 4 is a fast improvement and the touchpad will be very useful for gaming and non-gaming functions. The X1 controller has rumble triggers, but I'm not sure how important those will be or not. It's disappointing that they are still using AA batteries.

The family plan is up in question. Strong sources say it was always a way to share game trial demos with people. MS never fully explained this "saving grace" and if it was part of their plan they should have used it to their advantage in selling their idea.

I don't think I want to watch two things at the same time and a remote control lets me easily switch to two pieces of content without having to exit one. The advantage is the fluidity and the kinect based navigation, something that is also available on Samsung Smart TVs and Xfinity/X1 cable service.

I have never experienced Xbox Live operating better than PSN. Perhaps its just me but both services are on par in operation. The advantage really seems to stem from the ability to gather friends properly and enter games. The PS4 seems to be leaps and bounds capable over the PS3 in that regard and is designed for social interaction. As for paying for PS plus in order to unlock local multiplayer, I am upset. It should be free, but at least Sony isn't pay walling other things for those unwilling to get PS+.

Both look to have great games but PS4 is the stronger piece of hardware and their games show it. I can't trust any of the footage MS showed in their demos due to the hardware they used to display them. I think with their concentration on cloud processing they are overconfident in the visual fidelity and have unfairly displayed their graphics.

Also, PS4 is cheaper, making it an easier buy. The fact it is stronger is a great plus on top of that. I have a bunch of friends who no longer trust MS after its launch of kinect, lack of studios and exclusives, and the Xbox one disaster. Now they are looking at PS4 and I couldn't be happier to have a healthier friend environment.

will also get a PS4 at launch if possible too if i have the funds for both as they are two great systems to have.and some said this gen would suck......just look at what these two behemoths are bringing to the table..WOWWWWWW.

Wow, candidate for worst post of the thread. I wonder how some people lose all their own thoughts and just gather fanboy-arguments all over the net to spit them out whenever it's inappropriate and not needed. I don't say you are a fanboy but your post consists of stuff we heard thousand times before and even worse: I can't remember anyone saying Ryse had PS3-graphics. That's a new niveau-down-record.

Sony didn't show anything compelling enough for me to change from Xbox to Play Station brand.
Unlike PS2, which I still own, PS3 seemed generic with its main titles but GOW.
I get attracted to games mostly because of their interactiveness.
-Uncharted series have a good story but it's a 3rd person shooter and you can't top Gears in terms of controls for that genre.
-Killzone and Resistance were supposed to be Halo killers but we all saw how that went down.
-Little Big Planet is a nice platformer that I would like to try but I already got Wii with Super Marios and Mario Kart. So LBP Kart is not really on my mind, even less is PS All Stars when I have Super Smash Bros.
-JRPGs? Not into them.
-There is not that much for me in the PS platform.
- And the controller is no brainer, 360.
So that leads me to get X1, and on top of that its bringing back Killer Instinct. That's a system seller to me.

Kinect is mandatory is not true the xbone will work with out kinect. who needs kinect.
i will never buy A xbone and all them games will come to the ps4 anyways

Forza, KI, Ryse, Dead Rising 3 (well probably) for PS4 confirmed!!!

In all seriousness, outside of the PS4 being more powerful and being $100 cheaper I don't see much differences this gen. I prefer the 360 controller myself and COD is pretty big for me and my friends so we are getting the XB1 regardless of what the PS4 has for games. I might get a PS4 in 2-3 years depending on what comes out for the Wii U outside of Smash, MK and Bayonetta 2.

Already preordered an XB1.

I hope one day the movie companies will do direct digital download day one, instead of waiting several months for home rental or purchase.

1- That's a subjective question(?). There's people that like dancing games and other kinetic movements, tech innovations like me, multifunctionality and convinience of instant switching between tasks.

2- List the games that are confirmed to go to PS4.

For me PS4 for now seems to have better games.... that's my taste of course.

You forgot $100 price difference, since both consoles are pretty similar price is a huge advantage for the PS4 (Kinect is not worth 100$ in my opinion and at least should be optional)