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slowmo said:

Probably just the way I read it to be honest, I hope always online connectivity will allow you to not have the disk in the drive as going back to swapping physical disks around is stupid IMO.

simple solution... buy only digital.



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nanarchy said:

I think the whole mess is very unfortunate, I also think the change is a backward step, but really the fault lies with the atrocious PR job MS did of the whole thing. The one thing I really despise about the current gen consoles is they are the only thing I have preventing me from being completely digital only. At least the Xbox is keeping the all games can be purchased digitally and downloaded but personally I feel I lost more than I gained in this backwards step and the loss of the family sharing being the biggest. But the crowd has spoken and I think those that prefer digital are still in the minority.

All three consoles have digital only options. I don't see how anyone is limited with this change.



ethomaz said:

nanarchy said:

I think the whole mess is very unfortunate, I also think the change is a backward step, but really the fault lies with the atrocious PR job MS did of the whole thing. The one thing I really despise about the current gen consoles is they are the only thing I have preventing me from being completely digital only. At least the Xbox is keeping the all games can be purchased digitally and downloaded but personally I feel I lost more than I gained in this backwards step and the loss of the family sharing being the biggest. But the crowd has spoken and I think those that prefer digital are still in the minority.

MS and Sony are going to digital... every game for both willl have a digital version.

That a point I don't understand... MS can mantin the digital sharing and everythint else together with the offline disc based thing... the complain was about the used games disc based games and the internet checkins.

They can do everything they want with the digital content.

That leads me to think that publishers are very reluctant to opt into a sharing scheme. Which left MS with their backs against the wall with the potential saving grace getting no support.

Loss of family sharing is not really a loss, it was a not yet fully realized idea to make online drm look better. You can't lose something you never had and didn't even had it's fineprint ink dried yet. 10 people sharing their game libraries at will was just too good to be true.



SvennoJ said:

That leads me to think that publishers are very reluctant to opt into a sharing scheme. Which left MS with their backs against the wall with the potential saving grace getting no support.

Loss of family sharing is not really a loss, it was a not yet fully realized idea to make online drm look better. You can't lose something you never had and didn't even had it's fineprint ink dried yet. 10 people sharing their game libraries at will was just too good to be true.

I agree... and read something similar today (I don't know if it was you lol).

Publishers didn't like the Family sharing for sure but they accepted it due the block of used games and DRM on the system... when MS dropped the ball about the used games and DRM the published didn't accepted the Family sharing anymore.

Makes sense.

But MS can do that with games published buy themselves yet.



kupomogli said:
MonstaMack said:

 

But I swear, some people will never be happy. I bet even with the dropping of Kinect and a $100 price cut people would still pick the PS4 over the XB1, for reasons outside of games.

I would still get the PS4 for three reasons.   

1.  It's the PS4.

2.  More powerful hardware.

3.  The last one is actually the games.  The only exclusive I'm really interested in on the Xbox One is Killer Instinct.  Compare that to an exclusive I'm interested on the PS4, Infamous Second Son.  I also have a feeling more Japanese games I'm interested in will be exclusive for the PS4 over Xbox One.

Now there is a slight fourth reason, I'm not going to specifically count it, but it's something that is still better on the PS4 over the Xbox One.

PS+ even if the PS4 is required to play online multiplayer with it, still is a great value for the PS3 and Vita where you will get free games per month while you're on it.  That adds even more value.  It's specifically not for the PS4 and we don't know how good it'll be on the PS4 when free games start coming to it, so that's why I'm not listing it additionally as a reason to get one over the other. 


MS started adding free games to Gold members, starting this month. The first one being Fable III. These games are yours to keep. If you lose Gold, it's still in your library.







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superchunk said:
slowmo said:

Probably just the way I read it to be honest, I hope always online connectivity will allow you to not have the disk in the drive as going back to swapping physical disks around is stupid IMO.

simple solution... buy only digital.

 

I can't share my digital copy now though can I, this change sucks ass.  The console lost a lot of useful features for me and gave me nothing in return (I haven't bought or sold a used game for 6 years).  



at least i have an option of digital or disc, used, and rent games. all of a sudden its asking the world. its amaizing sometimes. truely.


sometimes all you can do is sit back and say... really?.....



 

Steambox will save the day.



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pbroy said:


MS started adding free games to Gold members, starting this month. The first one being Fable III. These games are yours to keep. If you lose Gold, it's still in your library.

They also stated that they were going to only do this until the Xbox One launched.  So 10 free games for the 360 as long as you're on Gold.  PS+ has done this for years and once the PS4 launches we'll continue getting the games for free. 

Five games per month for a year is 60 games of varying quality.  That's less than $1 a game since PS is only $50.  Even better if you purchase it when they're doing the three month bonus.  Even when it does lapse.  PS+ users knew the deal from the start.  You only get to use these while you're on PS+.  Since I'm getting as many games as I get for dirt cheap, doesn't bother me since I started the service knowing what would happen when I stopped paying.  I'm paying to rent these games and continuously getting more for that one fee.

If the PS3 PSN servers eventually are going to be shut down, there's illegal means to continue playing the games through PS+ long after they've expired, if I feel like getting CFW on my PS3.



slowmo said:
superchunk said:
slowmo said:

Probably just the way I read it to be honest, I hope always online connectivity will allow you to not have the disk in the drive as going back to swapping physical disks around is stupid IMO.

simple solution... buy only digital.

I can't share my digital copy now though can I, this change sucks ass.  The console lost a lot of useful features for me and gave me nothing in return (I haven't bought or sold a used game for 6 years).  

Yes you can. MSony both stated that you'll be able to have your respective ID sync'd to multiple consoles. Probably something like 3 or 5, but its still possible.

Additionally, the share 10 wouldn't have been simultaneous so people are clearly overreacting to a "lost" feature that wasn't even disclosed fully and technically not much different than sharing a disc now. (obviously a bit less convienant as you have to actually pass around the disc, but it can be with 50 friends vs 10)