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Ucell said:
JakDaSnack said:
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ListerOfSmeg said:
I agree with him. Sony is known for taking other peoples IP's changing a few things and calling it a new experience. See PS all Stars, Uncharted, LBP, Modnation, or any other IP they have come up with last gen, its all just copies of what some other company did first.
The same people crying over 3 similar Marios between ds,Wii and Wii U are foaming at the mouth for part 5 or 6 of series on their console of choice so their argument usually ends up not being valid in the end.
When Nintendo does make a new IP it is ignored by the people asking for it. I can think of 5 from last gen but if I named then, the excuses would begin.

Wow, just wow.

On topic:Nintendo should try more new ips though. Though the sequels do sell consoles so they are important too. That kind of is playing it safe though.

 I guess Uncharted, Last of Us, and Little Big Planet were all taken from someone else. Tell you what. If you can name a core Sony franchise that has a part 5 or 6 to it, I'd love to hear about it.



Ratchet and clank have like 11 games.  God of War has 6 plus the ios game, Grand turismo has 5 games, is that enough?

Idk about Little Big Planet as I never played it, but there are a lot of simularities between Uncharted and Tomb Raider.  And the Last of Us plays almost Identically to Uncharted (gameplay wise, the story is absolutely fantastic though).


Tomb Raider (reboot) came after Uncharted...so, yeah right.

I wasn't talking about the reboot.....sorry



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I'm fine with all these sequels, i have never complained. Nintendos sequels often has far more creativity than any other "new" ip.



sorry repost.



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He's right.

It is quite possible to take risks with existing IPs, just as it's possible to play it safe with new IPs. Why else do you think that so many new IPs can so often look like other existing IPs? And how about franchises like Kid Icarus, Kirby, and Metroid that can do brand new things with existing IPs?

He is completely and utterly right. That said, I do think Nintendo is playing it safer this year then they have in the recent past, but even then they're still publishing two new games from Platinum Games. They've got "X" coming, which at worst is a sequel to Xenoblade, which didn't exactly sell all that well to begin with. Fire Emblem Awakening was a big risk to localize: the game could have not only been the last Fire Emblem to be localized, but the last Fire Emblem period, had it not sold as well as it did.

New IPs are, frankly, overrated. They can allow for new settings, yes, but they don't automatically make a better game, or even necessarily a riskier game.

Hell, just look at FUSE: what was an interesting looking shooter was turned into a generic "me too" game by focus groups. That was not a game that took a lot of risks, regardless of the fact that it doesn't have a number next to the name.



I think the problem is not that we are getting games in IP's that we get frequently, but that these new iterations are playing it much safer than usual.

SM3DW looks like a carbon copy of 3D land, I'm not used to such an uninspired entry in the mario series.
DKTF looks like it could be a level pack for returns.
Mario Kart 8 looks great, but we did just get a mario kart not too long ago.


If the new 3D mario was something new and unique, and if DKTF looked like it was made on Wii U, then no one would be complaining.




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Mensrea said:
I think the problem is not that we are getting games in IP's that we get frequently, but that these new iterations are playing it much safer than usual.

SM3DW looks like a carbon copy of 3D land, I'm not used to such an uninspired entry in the mario series.
DKTF looks like it could be a level pack for returns.
Mario Kart 8 looks great, but we did just get a mario kart not too long ago.


If the new 3D mario was something new and unique, and if DKTF looked like it was made on Wii U, then no one would be complaining.

And this is why as the portable and home console strategies at Nintendo continue to merge, it will be more and more crucial for Nintendo to merge the hardware and software library into 1, so as to avoid this phenomenon, and focus their efforts, even possibly leading to new IPs and some risky ventures with the leeway that merger offers.



Mandalore76 said:
I'm still waiting to see the gaming community blast Activision when Call of Duty 34 releases.


We already did, they make them be it sells, same with Nintendo. ....pretty much mostof ths whole damn generation, but yet we still buy them. :/



Don’t follow the hype, follow the games

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Here a little quote I want for those to keep memorize in your head for this coming next gen.                            

 By: Suke

Just because something is treated as a new IP (AKA new names, different looking characters, etc) doesn't mean it actually makes much of a difference between other IP's. This is how I view many zombies games that people always describe as "Oh! That's new and different!"

Well, no it's not.



Mandalore76 said:
I'm still waiting to see the gaming community blast Activision when Call of Duty 34 releases.

That's different. Because there are always new guns added!



Nintendo has made just under 10 new IPs for the 3DS & under 5 new IPs for the Wii U. I will even name some:

Yarn Yoshi

Dillon's Rolling Western

Sakura Samurai: Art if the Sword

Steel Diver

Savvy Style: Trendsetters

Ketzal's Corridors

Kersploosh!

Pushmo

HarmoKnight

 

I know there are other new 1st party IPs, but right now that's all I can think of.

And here are some new 2nd party IPs:

Lego City Undercover

The Wonderful 101

 

And here are some new 3rd party IPs:

ZombiU

Rhythm Thief (the first one is: Rhythm Thief & the Emperor's Treasure)