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chapset on 18 June 2013
disolitude said:
chapset said:
disolitude said:
qmoney88 said:
disolitude said:
badgenome said:
If the past week is anything to go by it looks like that trail MS is blazing leads right out of the console business.

I disagree... When Apple, Android devices and Microsoft ecosystems are running the digital gaming landscape 5 years from now and Sony is yelling "hey guys, we do digital too if you'd like"...we will see who made the right bet.

 


Accept Sony does do digital... Are you serious right now?  Sony gives their consumers options, Microsoft is taking them away.  The only way microsofts approach will be successful and permeate the entire industry is if we allow it to, by supporting this bullshit.  I would absolutely love for nothing more than for Microsoft to backpedal a bit and at least drop this drm bullshit so that I can feel good about owning every system, but as it stands, I simply refuse to support this movement.  Sony and ninty all the way.

You just don't understand what a sound digital ecosystem is if you think that you can be half digital and half not. Xbox 360 and PS3 did "digital"...its the current staus quo.

You people are just not seeing the benefits of going digital and are jsut focusing on DRM and olways on as huge drawbacks. I refuse to believe that the people who use the internet can't see the benefits of a digital gaming library.

For example, how is Sony going to allow you to digitally share disk based games with friends and both play them in seperate households? You have to currier the disk back and forth...That sucks.

The Infrastructure is not even there yet for most part of the US and Canada to provide fast Internet and no data cap so we can go digital only, Only some small European countries and countries like south korea have fast enough Internet for that and we don't even know when the X1 will launch in those countries


Come on dude. Dont know about US but Canada has internet widely available to the majority of the population. Internet caps are going up and there are many providers with unlimited internet...

Im not saying that there wont be people who dont have internet that would like to play next gen games, but why are we as an internet community up and arms about that? The odds are that 95% of people here bashing Xbox one always on have perfectly capable internet to complete check in once every 24 hours and enjoy digital gaming for many years to come.

http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/

And like for every test this is not your actual speed but the speed your modem can connect to your Internet provider

This is my score and I never was able to get a faster than 2.2Mbps

Downloading 50Gb games wuold take for ever and two games would blow my download cap



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MoHasanie on 18 June 2013

I kinda agree with what you are saying, however Sony has always been innovative. Both Sony and Microsoft learn from each other (well sort of, but now Microsoft seems to be making the same mistakes Sony made in 2006). Perhaps we will see Microsoft adopt some of the PS4's features in the future if they are successful, and maybe we will see the PS4 adopt some of Xbox One's successful features as well.



    

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disolitude on 18 June 2013
chapset said:
disolitude said:

 


Come on dude. Dont know about US but Canada has internet widely available to the majority of the population. Internet caps are going up and there are many providers with unlimited internet...

Im not saying that there wont be people who dont have internet that would like to play next gen games, but why are we as an internet community up and arms about that? The odds are that 95% of people here bashing Xbox one always on have perfectly capable internet to complete check in once every 24 hours and enjoy digital gaming for many years to come.

http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/

And like for every test this is not your actual speed but the speed your modem can connect to your Internet provider

This is my score and I never was able to get a faster than 2.2Mbps

Downloading 50Gb games wuold take for ever and two games would blow my download cap

I believe both next gen consoles have the ability to play after an initial gig or two gigs get downloaded and installed. I know Xbox One does...

Also, since the games are downloaded and installed they can be compressed quite a bit. I cant see you downloading 50 gb worth of data for a game for quite some time. Next gen all these game downloads and updates are expected to be performed in the background without much user knowledge or wait time.

Thats a very good internet connection that you have btw. Especially your upload...I cant see you having any difficulties with internet speed and always on. I am pretty certain you were getting 2.2 MB/s with that connection...not Mbps. I have a 16Mbps theoretical connection according to my internet provider and ive my seen my torrents do 1.8-2MB/s...



JusSayian on 18 June 2013

I agree with everything you have said, but Sony innovates too. Its just funny when they copy their competition and their community who defends them to their dying breathe ends up looking like hypocrites.



chapset on 18 June 2013
disolitude said:
chapset said:
disolitude said:

 


Come on dude. Dont know about US but Canada has internet widely available to the majority of the population. Internet caps are going up and there are many providers with unlimited internet...

Im not saying that there wont be people who dont have internet that would like to play next gen games, but why are we as an internet community up and arms about that? The odds are that 95% of people here bashing Xbox one always on have perfectly capable internet to complete check in once every 24 hours and enjoy digital gaming for many years to come.

http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/

And like for every test this is not your actual speed but the speed your modem can connect to your Internet provider

This is my score and I never was able to get a faster than 2.2Mbps

Downloading 50Gb games wuold take for ever and two games would blow my download cap

I believe both next gen consoles have the ability to play after an initial gig or two gigs get downloaded and installed. I know Xbox One does...

Also, since the games are downloaded and installed they can be compressed quite a bit. I cant see you downloading 50 gb worth of data for a game for quite some time. Next gen all these game downloads and updates are expected to be performed in the background without much user knowledge or wait time.

Thats a very good internet connection that you have btw. Especially your upload...I cant see you having any difficulties with internet speed and always on. I am pretty certain you were getting 2.2 MB/s with that connection...not Mbps. I have a 16Mbps theoretical connection according to my internet provider and ive my seen my torrents do 1.8-2MB/s...

It's not the always online that I hate the most with the X1, it's the used game they are blocking, because I got most of my favorite games this gen used. When I was done with metal gear solid 4 I trade it to a guy for war hawk and heavenly sword I end up playing 500h+ on warhawk I also got the orange box used an other 600h+, if it wasn't for the used game market I would probably only buy games that I am sure to enjoy and take less risk in spend 60$ on a genre I never played before. And renting is pretty much dead with the X1



Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.

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tuscaniman99 on 18 June 2013

Is there a reason people think games are going to be 50gigs? Battlefield 3 with all of the map packs etc on PC is I think around 24 gigs. I don't see very many games being over 20 gigs to be honest.



Darth Tigris on 18 June 2013
http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/

And like for every test this is not your actual speed but the speed your modem can connect to your Internet provider

This is my score and I never was able to get a faster than 2.2Mbps

Downloading 50Gb games wuold take for ever and two games would blow my download cap

Try this one:  http://testmy.net  Supposedly a lot more accurate.  But I have Clear and there is no test that tells me anything other than "you are being ripped off."  Oh I so can't wait until Google Fiber ...



ShadowSoldier on 18 June 2013

Lol you be trolling dude



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ShadowSoldier on 18 June 2013
disolitude said:
chapset said:
disolitude said:
qmoney88 said:
disolitude said:
badgenome said:
If the past week is anything to go by it looks like that trail MS is blazing leads right out of the console business.

I disagree... When Apple, Android devices and Microsoft ecosystems are running the digital gaming landscape 5 years from now and Sony is yelling "hey guys, we do digital too if you'd like"...we will see who made the right bet.

 


Accept Sony does do digital... Are you serious right now?  Sony gives their consumers options, Microsoft is taking them away.  The only way microsofts approach will be successful and permeate the entire industry is if we allow it to, by supporting this bullshit.  I would absolutely love for nothing more than for Microsoft to backpedal a bit and at least drop this drm bullshit so that I can feel good about owning every system, but as it stands, I simply refuse to support this movement.  Sony and ninty all the way.

You just don't understand what a sound digital ecosystem is if you think that you can be half digital and half not. Xbox 360 and PS3 did "digital"...its the current staus quo.

You people are just not seeing the benefits of going digital and are jsut focusing on DRM and olways on as huge drawbacks. I refuse to believe that the people who use the internet can't see the benefits of a digital gaming library.

For example, how is Sony going to allow you to digitally share disk based games with friends and both play them in seperate households? You have to currier the disk back and forth...That sucks.

The Infrastructure is not even there yet for most part of the US and Canada to provide fast Internet and no data cap so we can go digital only, Only some small European countries and countries like south korea have fast enough Internet for that and we don't even know when the X1 will launch in those countries


Come on dude. Dont know about US but Canada has internet widely available to the majority of the population. Internet caps are going up and there are many providers with unlimited internet...

Im not saying that there wont be people who dont have internet that would like to play next gen games, but why are we as an internet community up and arms about that? The odds are that 95% of people here bashing Xbox one always on have perfectly capable internet to complete check in once every 24 hours and enjoy digital gaming for many years to come.


We're Canada bro......California's Population alone is greater than our whole country 



Black Women Are The Most Beautiful Women On The Planet.

"In video game terms, RPGs are games that involve a form of separate battles taking place with a specialized battle system and the use of a system that increases your power through a form of points.

Sure, what you say is the definition, but the connotation of RPGs is what they are in video games." - dtewi

chapset on 18 June 2013
Darth Tigris said:
http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/

And like for every test this is not your actual speed but the speed your modem can connect to your Internet provider

This is my score and I never was able to get a faster than 2.2Mbps

Downloading 50Gb games wuold take for ever and two games would blow my download cap

Try this one:  http://testmy.net  Supposedly a lot more accurate.  But I have Clear and there is no test that tells me anything other than "you are being ripped off."  Oh I so can't wait until Google Fiber ...

Thx it's actually very acurate



Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.