Its coming up in 24 hour sense i beat the game. Im still thinking about it.
Its coming up in 24 hour sense i beat the game. Im still thinking about it.
| dukerx2 said: First off AMAZING game, for sure one of my favorite games, all time. But im very torn with the ending. On one side its great and the other I hate it. I hate it because Joel lies to Ellie for in my opinion is a very selfish reason. Come on man she might be the key to stop the infection that might end up wiping out the human race. But Naughty dog did a very good job connecting you with them and I almost understand why he did it, I almost feel his pain and connection with this girl. I honestly don't know what I would have done if I was Joel...Without rambling to much I love the ending. Troy Baker and Ashley Johnson better win some awards. And how about Nolan North, what a great job with the voice work all around. |
Thats the beauty of the Last of Us - nothing is black and white. There are no ''good'' and ''bad'' guys. Hell, the whole fight with David and his crew was provoked by Ellie and Joel
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I assumed that the battle he was referencing was the one at the University, where the hunters clearly shot first. I am not sure there was actually a case where Joel and Ellie were the ones who started the fight, unless they were clearly enemies
maverick40 said:
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Thats a shame if true they really are two great characters, Im guessing Ellie will atleast have some appearance though if there is a sequel
The ending was brilliant I thought. I had mixed feelings when watching it and it felt unsatisfying, but when you think of Joel's motives, it's a very realistic outcome and it really hits home and links back to the start of the game. Joel's a broken man, and Ellie is all he has left. It hurt to watch him lie to her face like that, it's a great scene to end the game on.

@Aldro
I couldnt have said it better myself :)
The best way to find out if you can trust somebody is to trust them.
Ernest Hemmingway
| Aldro said: Glad so many liked my thoughts :D <3 |
It summed up my experience with the game very well.
| arcelonious said: I thought the game was amazing, and I loved the ending. I personally think that Ellie knew Joel was lying to her. When Ellie asks Joel to swear to her, I don't think that she was trying to reaffirm the truth; I think she was trying to give Joel a chance to come clean. |
i feel that joel saved ellie not for him self like you stated, but for ellie. he believes she doesnt deserve to die, and he promised to protect her. its clear he is carrying the burden of his decision with him. for example, when ellie ran away on the horses and he yelled at her he said "do you even know what your life means?" he knows how important saving ellie is and he knows how big her immunity is.
i believe he lied to her because he decided to carry the burden, he told her this is no cure so she can get it out of her head and so she doesnt feel that there is anything that she can do, why? so she can live her life, joel saw how much this girl is alive, how she isnt just surviving, and he believes that she DESERVES to LIVE her life. thats why he did what he did and lied, thats why he is carrying the burden of his HUGE decision with him and not telling her, so she doesnt, and so she can live.
also i think he knows that if ellie knew she would have to die to make a cure, she would sacrifice her self. i think that how much he cares about her and that he believes she deserves to live has made him not tell her.
and coming to think about it, omg is this such a good ending. unbelievable how deep it is.

i do want to point out though that the winter level was the most intense thing i ever played in my life. the fact that they started it off by making you wonder whether joel is alive or dead was genius and then they show the great lengths that ellie takes to save joel. switching between these characters was pure genius. i always felt that at any given moment one of them could die. my heart beat was racing and i wasnt playing as i usually did. i wanted to know what is going to happen, i wanted it to end... i just fucking wanted it to end. i fucking wanted everything to be ok. joel was hurt and ellie is to little to take care of her self yet take on an entire fucking group of people while trying to save joel.
joel was so bad ass in how he treated those two he captured. he shows that he wasnt fucking around and he isnt willing to show a thread of humanity to those who could hurt ellie, which honestly makes him human. as ellie i felt more vulnerable, as joel i felt injured but i always felt that i NEED to move on. I NEED TO. there was no joking around, its LIFE or DEATH. it was the most intense two hours i ever played in my live. this level alone makes the game the best game ever made, you could argue with that, but you cant argue with the fact that this game did so much more that we never seen before
