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J_Allard said:

I'm sure there will be some restrictive factor MS hasn't revealed yet. Maybe the shared versions of the game are limited like the PS+ version of Drive Club. Or maybe you'll have to pay to play online or something. I don't see how this would be a huge detriment to sales or anything though. Most people won't use it, and plenty of people who do use it, would likely end up buying their own copy when they get tired of the restrictions. Especially in a big 10 person share family.

I don't see how this is much worse than the current system. On the PS4 you can buy a game and then as many people as you want can borrow and play the game. On the Xbox One its basically the same thing except that friend can be anywhere in the world, and its restricted to 10 friends. Why would publishers be more angry with the Xbox One if you can do almost the same thing on the PS4? 



    

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J_Allard said:


I never noticed this before but it looks like that used game advert for the PS4 was filmed at E3. 



    

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fillet said:
Euphoria14 said:
fillet said:


I'm not defending MS, not at all and quite the opposite.

VGChartz has been pretty good the past few years in not having a silly number of topics dealing with the same negative issues. Sure there's duplicates but it's a breath of fresh air compared to the sites where the stupid fanboys post.

I just don't want it going like that. For me at least I tend to checkout the popular topics on the right and when lots of them have "XBONE" in the title and the OP is by a known PS fan it starts to grate on me.

Constructive critisism, great. Making pathetic posts for a fanboy agenda just to stir up the pot, annoying.

Welcome to the start of a new generation of consoles.

Indeed, it hasn't quite got to the levels of 2005-2007 here just yet so I'm grateful for that...to be continued ;)

Holiday season is when the real fun begins.

I expect epic meltdowns, some users leaving and potential for many new members joining the site. 

 

Fun times ahead.



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The way i understand it is, the dude who owns the physical copy can play that game whenever he whants, them anyone of the 9 other dudes in the 10 group can play the virtual copy youre sharing, so you and one of those 9 dudes cna play the same game simultaneously but 2 of those 9 guys cant play the game you own simultaneously at all.

In other words this is exactly the same thing Sony already does with theyre digital copies (you can activate 2 PS3s and instal games on both and play them simultaneously) with the added bonus that once one of your friends is done with the game he can them let someone else play it, wich is kinda harmless for online multiplayer games but would basicaly mean that 1 out of 10 ppl is buying a single player game and them everyone sets a timetable or something and they all play that game.

Doesnt seen to em like this will stick and if it does Sony can pretty much do the same thing on the PS4 (if they want), they also have cloud suport.

Just remember PS3 went from allowing 5 ppl to share difital copies to 3 cause publishers forced them, I dont see how MS will get away with 10.



Euphoria14 said:
fillet said:

Indeed, it hasn't quite got to the levels of 2005-2007 here just yet so I'm grateful for that...to be continued ;)

Holiday season is when the real fun begins.

I expect epic meltdowns, some users leaving and potential for many new members joining the site. 

 

Fun times ahead.

And I see a ton of bans on the horizon



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AndrewWK said:
Euphoria14 said:
fillet said:

Indeed, it hasn't quite got to the levels of 2005-2007 here just yet so I'm grateful for that...to be continued ;)

Holiday season is when the real fun begins.

I expect epic meltdowns, some users leaving and potential for many new members joining the site. 

 

Fun times ahead.

And I see a ton of bans on the horizon

Ban report will be epic.



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This explains it fairly well for those that are still confused about how "Family sharing"works. 

https://securecdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/520/9719/original.jpg



smroadkill15 said:

This explains it fairly well for those that are still confused about how "Family sharing"works. 

https://securecdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/520/9719/original.jpg

Time to bribe my xbox friend with a nice cake so i can play the part of Chris the moocher. Buy 1 play 10 sounds opposite of steam where we buy 10 games and play 1.



Lol at some still not getting this or trying to twist it. And lol at drm fears. Xbox one sounds truly amazing. On all fronts now.

10 people can play from the library at the same time, but cannot be the same title. So games like multiplayer halo will require multiple copies for online play.

think of it as giving your disc to a mate. You can no longer play that game because you gave over your disc. Same as only 1 person can play said game in list at a time.

this will stop not only used games but piracy to. All in all devs Nd publishers will make more money than last gen. I expect sales to be a bit higher of games next gen. Because the pirates will love this feature and buy some games now. As well as used sale traders buying games to. The balance out between less buyers and more buyers will balance.

also this doesn't just apply to download only titles. Disc titles are installed to hdd. Where they will still be verified every 24 hours. You don't need the disc into play as you can switch between games instantly which obviously wouldn't work if you had to get up and change the disc.

this is a great day to be a gamer



Multimedialover said:
Lol at some still not getting this or trying to twist it. And lol at drm fears. Xbox one sounds truly amazing. On all fronts now.

10 people can play from the library at the same time, but cannot be the same title. So games like multiplayer halo will require multiple copies for online play.

think of it as giving your disc to a mate. You can no longer play that game because you gave over your disc. Same as only 1 person can play said game in list at a time.

this will stop not only used games but piracy to. All in all devs Nd publishers will make more money than last gen. I expect sales to be a bit higher of games next gen. Because the pirates will love this feature and buy some games now. As well as used sale traders buying games to. The balance out between less buyers and more buyers will balance.

also this doesn't just apply to download only titles. Disc titles are installed to hdd. Where they will still be verified every 24 hours. You don't need the disc into play as you can switch between games instantly which obviously wouldn't work if you had to get up and change the disc.

this is a great day to be a gamer


Devs selling only 1 game when they could be selling 10 wont help them at all. Again this has been said 700 times, PS3 had a feature that basicaly allowed 5 ppl to share a game and the devs made so much pressure Sony reduced it to 2, MS is trying to pull 10 off and not piss off the devs ? Instead of selling 6 mil copys a game will sell 600000 thats a hughe freaking loss, no used games market si able to cut a games sale by 10 realy.

 

Also the linked "explanation"isnt oficial, so it can be totaly bogus, and alot of stuf are unclear like for instance I own Forza, I turn my Xbox on the morning and "my friend Bob"is playing my Forza and I go fck it, I want to play my Forza right now and I log in my account and kick Bob out ? Do I get locked out of my game ? Can Bob even play if my Xbox is turned off ? What if I travel and my Xbox hasnt mailled home for a week did I just screw my entire "family"? the thing is so nebulous and not well explained right now that almost all the amjor gamming websites have just said this thing exists and not even triedto explain the heck it is.

 

And if this feature was this freaking great MS would be shouting all over the place about it, E3 is gone it was the perfect time to reveal this, maybe it is something that allows for 10 ppl to share gaems and only pay 1/10th the game each but even so they lost the best oportunity to be ehard and now the negativity against them is enormous and ppl might not even listen anymore. Not too sure what Ms is playing at here.