oh im srue they havnt told us everything about it   i wouldnt be surprised if you have to have a gold sub,  but i think this is diff then what sony had in the past ms way isnt giving all 10 members the game this sounds more like a free gamefly.  if that made since lol

It's one copy running at a time only.

@ theprof00: ah must've glanced over it

MS should really follow Sony's Vita strategy: released the game both digitally and physically but give the digital version a discount and sometimes with free dlc

I was well aware of this.  And as I have stated multiple times in multiple threads, if that is simply a deal breaker for you, sobeit.  But by all accounts it appears that this allows for the enormous advantage of digital game sharing.  And whilst your assertion that the details of this are not confirmed are correct, multiple anecdotal sources are coagulating around the same idea.

And THAT is the ONLY DRM that Microsoft is imposing above and beyond Sony.  Any other grand chasm between their models of restrictiveness is entirely imagined, and a result of what was admittedly good PR by Sony designed to cover their plan to make you pay for online...just like Microsoft.

Edit: Watch your quote trees - Kresnik

Looks fake. Let's assume its real though. Do you really think they were planning on lowering game prices? I mean seriously, that's laughable.

That last paraphraph is ridiculous as well. NEWSFLASH: PS4 can do more than just games. Music/TV/Movies. It does all of it that too. It has Netflix, it has Hulu.

Lol, how can the same publisher crying about used games eating their profits (hence the reason for the DRM in the first place) cut prices to $40? That one is a wild dream.

You have me on that point but bigger engines don't always equal more power. My 4.0 litre 6 cylinder produces 360HP while an aussie V8 Holden Commodore produces a respectable for street standards 335HP... Oh, did I mention my car is Turbocharged? (has near nothing to do with it... I just like to talk about cars.)

The bonuses I mentioned are worth more money and are what's "in", if you did go with the larger engine that is again preference. If the PS4 is 240HP, surely the PC is a $15,000 Audi R8 then... So about 400ish HP? Is that car too powerful?

Ditto. But more to the point, how anybody could think the PS4 is somehow inferior to the One for non-gaming tasks (as in the original post) is beyond me when Netflix is not behind a subscription-wall. If anything, the One is the inferior system for multimedia becase it has the same hard disk size but requires the games to be installed on it. That's going to burn a lot of hard disk space and reduce the system's multimedia potential, particularly later in the console's life when gamers get big libraries.

No, I know that. The wording they use is strange though.

"and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time."

Is it "any ONE"?

or "anyone"?

"at a given time". This English phrase usually implies a limitation, as opposed to "at any given time", which implies freedoms.

Plus, do you need a platinum account, or a gold, or nothing? You are supposed to be able to play single player without live, so is this a live feature? Is there additional cloud fees?

There's a lot they're not saying, and what they are saying is extremely vague, yet full of promises.

Lol mate the power capabilities of the two 'cars' we're discussing are far from confirmed.

Neither have been independently tested, and one is allegedly capable of calling in an Antonov to help it fly ahead of it's competitor.