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DJEVOLVE said:
All the people in here saying your getting a ps4, you where before any details came out. PS4 fans have a big surprise when most, to all 3rd party developers do the same exact thing as MS. This is going to be the norm. You can blame all the cheap gamers for making this happen. When Gamestop was making record profits, I seen this coming a mile away. This is how I see it. broke people will go to PS4 and not buy many games. People with money and always buy new, will have internet and not see a problem going with MS. This is where MS will win. Exclusives are going to be moving over to xb1 faster than you think.

I'm getting sick of hearing about this since it's all the cheap people that caused it. I always have internet. Who doesn't? People who don't buy games, that's who.


Funny how all apologists think this is only because of money.

No no, candies, this is about a principle that we rally against. That's where the backlash is coming from, not from the problem of money, as many of you so narrowly believe. It's the principle that a company will tell me what I can or cannot do with something I bought, it's the principle that giant corporations dictate on what terms I can or cannot enjoy the things that I give them money for.

I can sell a BluRay disc if I chose to, I can sell any of my many books, I can sell any of my music CDs, I can freaking sell my car, any device in my home, I can even damn well sell my chinchillas...I have that right and that option. Gaming is the only bloated industry that's got its head so far up its ass that it sees it as a GOOD idea to treat its customers like criminals instead of improving services. And the moment I'll see that I can't play games anymore because servers are shut down, or when I'll see I'll get increasingly stripped down games because I just have to DEAL with it as I'm unable to get my money back from a disc, that's when I'll quit gaming altogether and just stick to reading. And it'll probably happen too, because people are in love with corporations that will do anything to suck more money from them and give nothing back.

But hey, at least you'll play as a walrus in Call of Duty 21.



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JinxRake said:
DJEVOLVE said:
All the people in here saying your getting a ps4, you where before any details came out. PS4 fans have a big surprise when most, to all 3rd party developers do the same exact thing as MS. This is going to be the norm. You can blame all the cheap gamers for making this happen. When Gamestop was making record profits, I seen this coming a mile away. This is how I see it. broke people will go to PS4 and not buy many games. People with money and always buy new, will have internet and not see a problem going with MS. This is where MS will win. Exclusives are going to be moving over to xb1 faster than you think.

I'm getting sick of hearing about this since it's all the cheap people that caused it. I always have internet. Who doesn't? People who don't buy games, that's who.


Funny how all apologists think this is only because of money.

No no, candies, this is about a principle that we rally against. That's where the backlash is coming from, not from the problem of money, as many of you so narrowly believe. It's the principle that a company will tell me what I can or cannot do with something I bought, it's the principle that giant corporations dictate on what terms I can or cannot enjoy the things that I give them money for.

I can sell a BluRay disc if I chose to, I can sell any of my many books, I can sell any of my music CDs, I can freaking sell my car, any device in my home, I can even damn well sell my chinchillas...I have that right and that option. Gaming is the only bloated industry that's got its head so far up its ass that it sees it as a GOOD idea to treat its customers like criminals instead of improving services. And the moment I'll see that I can't play games anymore because servers are shut down, or when I'll see I'll get increasingly stripped down games because I just have to DEAL with it as I'm unable to get my money back from a disc, that's when I'll quit gaming altogether and just stick to reading. And it'll probably happen too, because people are in love with corporations that will do anything to suck more money from them and give nothing back.

But hey, at least you'll play as a walrus in Call of Duty 21.

So can you with xbox 1 and you can also share with your friends. Whats the big deal?  it comes down to money. People are cheap.

It also seems that people want everything for free all the time. People are so cheap that they would spend only 5 dollars less on a game, knowing it hurts the company they love. All of gamestops record profits come from cheap people like this.  I always have internet, have for the last 10 years. So it does come down to money. We can actaully get away from shooters and stop giving the shaft to games that don't sell ton out the gate but are great and get destroyed buy used game sales.



Sony have hit a home run so far. I am very happy for them. The shills at Microsoft haven't a clue how to sell the Xbox one. Going by anecdotal evidence on my facebook and twitter, all my contacts that were 360 this generation are jumping ship. One of the engineers in my place told me today that he even bought a Vita to get ready for the PS4. Consumers are a fickle bunch.



DJEVOLVE said:
JinxRake said:
DJEVOLVE said:
All the people in here saying your getting a ps4, you where before any details came out. PS4 fans have a big surprise when most, to all 3rd party developers do the same exact thing as MS. This is going to be the norm. You can blame all the cheap gamers for making this happen. When Gamestop was making record profits, I seen this coming a mile away. This is how I see it. broke people will go to PS4 and not buy many games. People with money and always buy new, will have internet and not see a problem going with MS. This is where MS will win. Exclusives are going to be moving over to xb1 faster than you think.

I'm getting sick of hearing about this since it's all the cheap people that caused it. I always have internet. Who doesn't? People who don't buy games, that's who.


Funny how all apologists think this is only because of money.

No no, candies, this is about a principle that we rally against. That's where the backlash is coming from, not from the problem of money, as many of you so narrowly believe. It's the principle that a company will tell me what I can or cannot do with something I bought, it's the principle that giant corporations dictate on what terms I can or cannot enjoy the things that I give them money for.

I can sell a BluRay disc if I chose to, I can sell any of my many books, I can sell any of my music CDs, I can freaking sell my car, any device in my home, I can even damn well sell my chinchillas...I have that right and that option. Gaming is the only bloated industry that's got its head so far up its ass that it sees it as a GOOD idea to treat its customers like criminals instead of improving services. And the moment I'll see that I can't play games anymore because servers are shut down, or when I'll see I'll get increasingly stripped down games because I just have to DEAL with it as I'm unable to get my money back from a disc, that's when I'll quit gaming altogether and just stick to reading. And it'll probably happen too, because people are in love with corporations that will do anything to suck more money from them and give nothing back.

But hey, at least you'll play as a walrus in Call of Duty 21.

So can you with xbox 1 and you can also share with your friends. Whats the big deal?  it comes down to money. People are cheap.

It also seems that people want everything for free all the time. People are so cheap that they would spend only 5 dollars less on a game, knowing it hurts the company they love. All of gamestops record profits come from cheap people like this.  I always have internet, have for the last 10 years. So it does come down to money. We can actaully get away from shooters and stop giving the shaft to games that don't sell ton out the gate but are great and get destroyed buy used game sales.

Please let me know how that'll work out in the long run. I'll be very interested to see this shift from shooters that you say is coming.



JinxRake said:
DJEVOLVE said:
JinxRake said:

Funny how all apologists think this is only because of money.

No no, candies, this is about a principle that we rally against. That's where the backlash is coming from, not from the problem of money, as many of you so narrowly believe. It's the principle that a company will tell me what I can or cannot do with something I bought, it's the principle that giant corporations dictate on what terms I can or cannot enjoy the things that I give them money for.

I can sell a BluRay disc if I chose to, I can sell any of my many books, I can sell any of my music CDs, I can freaking sell my car, any device in my home, I can even damn well sell my chinchillas...I have that right and that option. Gaming is the only bloated industry that's got its head so far up its ass that it sees it as a GOOD idea to treat its customers like criminals instead of improving services. And the moment I'll see that I can't play games anymore because servers are shut down, or when I'll see I'll get increasingly stripped down games because I just have to DEAL with it as I'm unable to get my money back from a disc, that's when I'll quit gaming altogether and just stick to reading. And it'll probably happen too, because people are in love with corporations that will do anything to suck more money from them and give nothing back.

But hey, at least you'll play as a walrus in Call of Duty 21.

So can you with xbox 1 and you can also share with your friends. Whats the big deal?  it comes down to money. People are cheap.

It also seems that people want everything for free all the time. People are so cheap that they would spend only 5 dollars less on a game, knowing it hurts the company they love. All of gamestops record profits come from cheap people like this.  I always have internet, have for the last 10 years. So it does come down to money. We can actaully get away from shooters and stop giving the shaft to games that don't sell ton out the gate but are great and get destroyed buy used game sales.

Please let me know how that'll work out in the long run. I'll be very interested to see this shift from shooters that you say is coming.


I will let you know how that works out for me. Killer Instinct is back and I will start their.

 

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JinxRake said:
DJEVOLVE said:
All the people in here saying your getting a ps4, you where before any details came out. PS4 fans have a big surprise when most, to all 3rd party developers do the same exact thing as MS. This is going to be the norm. You can blame all the cheap gamers for making this happen. When Gamestop was making record profits, I seen this coming a mile away. This is how I see it. broke people will go to PS4 and not buy many games. People with money and always buy new, will have internet and not see a problem going with MS. This is where MS will win. Exclusives are going to be moving over to xb1 faster than you think.

I'm getting sick of hearing about this since it's all the cheap people that caused it. I always have internet. Who doesn't? People who don't buy games, that's who.


Funny how all apologists think this is only because of money.

No no, candies, this is about a principle that we rally against. That's where the backlash is coming from, not from the problem of money, as many of you so narrowly believe. It's the principle that a company will tell me what I can or cannot do with something I bought, it's the principle that giant corporations dictate on what terms I can or cannot enjoy the things that I give them money for.

I can sell a BluRay disc if I chose to, I can sell any of my many books, I can sell any of my music CDs, I can freaking sell my car, any device in my home, I can even damn well sell my chinchillas...I have that right and that option. Gaming is the only bloated industry that's got its head so far up its ass that it sees it as a GOOD idea to treat its customers like criminals instead of improving services. And the moment I'll see that I can't play games anymore because servers are shut down, or when I'll see I'll get increasingly stripped down games because I just have to DEAL with it as I'm unable to get my money back from a disc, that's when I'll quit gaming altogether and just stick to reading. And it'll probably happen too, because people are in love with corporations that will do anything to suck more money from them and give nothing back.

But hey, at least you'll play as a walrus in Call of Duty 21.


Actually no.

 

Its the poor people who pirate that have caused this. Christ it was estimated that 3 mill copies of Halo 3 were pirated and I believe 2 mill of Gears Of War 2. 

In my local area there is 5 Facebook sellers who sell pirated games. On Facebook. £5 each. £10 each for new games. CRAZY!

Im sure there are those out there who dont earn alot of money but are honest and buy used games or new. But there is a huge population who have chipped consoles and play pirated games.

 

So instead of rallying against a principle rally against Piracy. The movie industry is almost set to become country locked by 2014. Bluray only.

Hence why all Bluray players come with the ability to connect to the internet. 

 

PS4 will 100% have 3rd party publishers using some kind of fee if you buy the game and someone else already registered it to their PSN account. Ubisoft already said at E3 they can do this on PS4. And they followed with it is actually need to save the industy with its ever increasing development costs. 

 

Microsoft of course are looking after their bank balance, but this kind of thing would not have been on the table had digital theft not been so HIGH. 

 

Personally Ive never Pirated. I hold a good job and have a great internet connection. So do all my friends. 

We are all getting Xbox One, because we dont mind Microsoft stopping the sad pathetic billion $ Piracy industry.

I can deal with digitally lending my games to friends in my family list. For no charge.

I can deal with trading my crap games in at designated stores ( not that I trade much at all ) .

But also I love the idea of always on. I love that my phone is, I love that my Tablet is and I love the possibilities of The One and its online functions. 

 

Its the last industry to adopt this, so finnnnnnaaaaalllllllyyyyyyyyy we have it. YAY!!!!

PS4 and The One are actually going for 2 different demographics. 

Someone like me who wants more than a videogame toy, is finally glad to see a console that truly attempts to unify my living room. Whilst providing me with amazing exclusive games.



DJEVOLVE said:
JinxRake said:
DJEVOLVE said:
JinxRake said:
DJEVOLVE said:
All the people in here saying your getting a ps4, you where before any details came out. PS4 fans have a big surprise when most, to all 3rd party developers do the same exact thing as MS. This is going to be the norm. You can blame all the cheap gamers for making this happen. When Gamestop was making record profits, I seen this coming a mile away. This is how I see it. broke people will go to PS4 and not buy many games. People with money and always buy new, will have internet and not see a problem going with MS. This is where MS will win. Exclusives are going to be moving over to xb1 faster than you think.

I'm getting sick of hearing about this since it's all the cheap people that caused it. I always have internet. Who doesn't? People who don't buy games, that's who.


Funny how all apologists think this is only because of money.

No no, candies, this is about a principle that we rally against. That's where the backlash is coming from, not from the problem of money, as many of you so narrowly believe. It's the principle that a company will tell me what I can or cannot do with something I bought, it's the principle that giant corporations dictate on what terms I can or cannot enjoy the things that I give them money for.

I can sell a BluRay disc if I chose to, I can sell any of my many books, I can sell any of my music CDs, I can freaking sell my car, any device in my home, I can even damn well sell my chinchillas...I have that right and that option. Gaming is the only bloated industry that's got its head so far up its ass that it sees it as a GOOD idea to treat its customers like criminals instead of improving services. And the moment I'll see that I can't play games anymore because servers are shut down, or when I'll see I'll get increasingly stripped down games because I just have to DEAL with it as I'm unable to get my money back from a disc, that's when I'll quit gaming altogether and just stick to reading. And it'll probably happen too, because people are in love with corporations that will do anything to suck more money from them and give nothing back.

But hey, at least you'll play as a walrus in Call of Duty 21.

So can you with xbox 1 and you can also share with your friends. Whats the big deal?  it comes down to money. People are cheap.

It also seems that people want everything for free all the time. People are so cheap that they would spend only 5 dollars less on a game, knowing it hurts the company they love. All of gamestops record profits come from cheap people like this.  I always have internet, have for the last 10 years. So it does come down to money. We can actaully get away from shooters and stop giving the shaft to games that don't sell ton out the gate but are great and get destroyed buy used game sales.

Please let me know how that'll work out in the long run. I'll be very interested to see this shift from shooters that you say is coming.


I will let you know how that works out for me. Killer Instinct is back and I will start their.

And

Quantum Break

Ryse Son Of Rome

Forza 5

Project Spark

BlackTusk new ninja IP

Dead Rising 3

Sunset Overdrive

 

 

wait........... all those cant be exclsuive to Xbox One. That makes the Xbox One less shooter exclusive than PS4. 



Performing my daily run through of Yahoo and came across this. ~4,300 comments already and they are not positive.

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/microsoft-gamers-no-internet-buy-360-172308365.html



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Euphoria14 said:
Performing my daily run through of Yahoo and came across this. ~4,300 comments already and they are not positive.

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/microsoft-gamers-no-internet-buy-360-172308365.html

That's only a very small hardcore minority though.