It is still a lazy effort compared to the other 3D Mario games.

I don't see how they were going to top Galaxy anyway. Super Mario Universe? That's writing themselves into a corner.

After a departure, I have no issue with returning back to basics.

the two games I was most hyped for, Retro's game and 3D Mario, were a let down. HUGE disappointment. and its weird how Mario Kart actually looks visually better by a long shot, then the 3D Mario. when has that every happened? NEVER! it looks like a 3DS port... hey, maybe thats what it is!
its like the end of great mario platformers. first it happened with the 2D games, and now 3D... sad, sad day.
however, Smash Bros. and X were really something. awesome stuff.

And back to basis is in escence 3DWorld because it looks somewhat similar to SM64. Problem is that not only it feels like a copy paste from 3D Land, but also Nintendo forgotten about presentation. They could not top Galaxy in mechanics and gameplay, but presentation doesn't have an excuse.

There are other options, like form example similar to 3DWorld but collect starts in the same way than Banjo-Kazoiee with jiggsaws that don't pull off you from the world every time you collect a jiggsaw. Make it more open explorable worlds.

Fuck Miyamoto. Fire him already. One thing is to give a gameplay focus and another is to destroy a game entirely.

People bought a 160$ 3DS for Mario 3D Land and MK7.

Good luck trying to sell a 350$ console with Mario 3D Land2, NSMBU already failed at that.

I thought it looked really fun, didn't noticed the graphics until reading this thread lol. Yes it looks like a 3DS game but it looked fun to me. I only hope it has some challenge in it.

He was the one responsable for no more Rosalina sidestory or not a cool hub like the Comet in Galaxy 2.

It is time for Koizumi to be in Miyamoto's role.

3D Land is a good game, a great handheld game even.

But it's absolutely nothing compared to Galaxy. Mario 64 pushed the 3D platform, Galaxy pushed the 3D platform and became the reference.

Mario 3D Land is a good game but did not push the genre at all. It had nice 3D witout glasses effect but did not wow anybody.

We awaited the new 3D platform reference, not the follow up of a good handheld game.

I think the issue stems from the focus on multiplayer. There are other ways it could be done, surely, but EAD Tokyo believes they already have a solid formula in place because of 3D Land, and all it needs is multiplayer to be the icing on the cake.

The result is nothing particularly new, but certainly something different than Galaxy, and an improvement on 3D Land. Now, what I wonder is how large the levels are going to be, since 3D Land's were pretty tiny. Either EAD Tokyo needs to make lots and lots of levels with more variety, or have significantly larger and longer ones than before.

At any rate I agree with you on the presentation. They seem to be operating on the KISS method this time around, which is not going to be appealing to everyone. And you have no idea how much I'd like to see some Galaxy throwback levels in the game.