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iclim4 on 24 April 2008
TGM said:
the problem with most players here is that they do predictive rolling. u roll right into smashes. or at least thats what i do to u guys. some of you think that if u roll behind me ill not know what to do.....im F-ing TGM. I created smash!!!!!

but honestly, roll the wrong way every once in a while, it will throw people off.

I do, I roll to you, roll back, shoot needles. =P
Though once I trip, I usually roll towards the enemy.
I died several times from lucas' upsmash because of that habit.




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TGM on 24 April 2008

toon link is AMAZING. he will just barely miss the top 5 characters.

shiek is absolutly horrible. she can still combo but since DI was increased in brawl her combos wont last more than 3-4 hits before people get out of it. her BEST move(the slap) wont kill any more.........sheik sucks. she will be low tier

and again, fludd is totaly usless. it may have worked on ike, but a smart ike would NEVER be in that situation you described. A smart ike wont randomly OVER B. or OVER B in the air where ANY BODY could get him. mario will be bottom tier.

now onto ike. Ike can kill ANY character other than ganon,dk,bowser,dedede at 40% with his F smash. that alone is a scary thought. Remember how marth does increased damage and increased knockback with his tip? well ike does even MORE knockback AND damage with ALL of his sword......again, this makes people poop thier pants. Ike jabs are the one thing that can hurt the characters that can run circles around him. The ONLY THING that hold sike back is his speed/lag of his attacks/his predictable recovery. he will be high tier, not top.

in case some of you do not kow the order of the tiers:

Top
High
Mid
Low
Bottom




shizzlee on 24 April 2008
iclim4 said:
shizzlee said:
iclim4 said:
Fun games TGM, Shea and Furby(?)
My strategies still need a lot of work.
I'm still losing the same way, the only improvement I saw from myself today was the way I was dodging your projectiles TGM.

@Shizzle
Wow you dodge REALLY well.
My Ike was dispatched real quick.
Though I did start to get my mojo back at the end through all the times I lost.
Overall great games. ^_^
How does Guild's stack up against you?

And who's furby?(not sure about the spelling, though the name sounds similar)

Dodging is the only thing I am good at. I don't really know about guild. I haven't played with him in days, and I don't who furby is.

Umm, I have a question. Does anyone else here uses Mario and if so, do you use Mario's down B which is his Fluud? I have been trying to find some uses for it. I want to fight another Mario user.

You should give yourself more credit. You did a lot more than Dodge.
Also, you have pretty good observation skills.
I usually win at mind games with shiek, especially because her speed gives me an edge even when I make a mistake, but you easily predicted my moves.
Add to that the way you predicted my Ike's sidesteps.
I painfully noticed that I had a nack to try to dodge behind someone but you would always get me with a smash.

About guild, it doesn't matter if it's days old, I just want to know how he did.
From the way you can time dodges I think any Ike user would have trouble, because of Ike's long ending lags.
So if he did a lot better than me, then that would mean I'm doing something terribly wrong. T_T

 The last time I played with him, I think his Ike gave my Mario trouble, but my Fox was able to beat him.  I don't think that my Mario has ever won a fight against him.    



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taomaster06 on 24 April 2008
iclim4 said:
TGM said:
the problem with most players here is that they do predictive rolling. u roll right into smashes. or at least thats what i do to u guys. some of you think that if u roll behind me ill not know what to do.....im F-ing TGM. I created smash!!!!!

but honestly, roll the wrong way every once in a while, it will throw people off.

I do, I roll to you, roll back, shoot needles. =P
Though once I trip, I usually roll towards the enemy.
I died several times from lucas' upsmash because of that habit.


yeah you did roll right into those smashes, but when you have ike i always roll into his foward smash

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Tokoro on 24 April 2008

bleh, you talk about tiers a lot ; ; I personally hate them, it seems like figuring out the tiers is like telling people they need to use those characters to do remotely good. I guess it's neccessary for super tournaments or something. I just think people should play who they like, and try to have fun.

Anyway, I didn't know Olimar was even close to being top tier, makes me wanna play Lucario cause people only like him for his feet. lol ^^

Edit: oh right, I actually meant to ask if anyone wanted to play some later tonight ^^;



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iclim4 on 24 April 2008
TGM said:
toon link is AMAZING. he will just barely miss the top 5 characters.

shiek is absolutly horrible. she can still combo but since DI was increased in brawl her combos wont last more than 3-4 hits before people get out of it. her BEST move(the slap) wont kill any more.........sheik sucks. she will be low tier

and again, fludd is totaly usless. it may have worked on ike, but a smart ike would NEVER be in that situation you described. A smart ike wont randomly OVER B. or OVER B in the air where ANY BODY could get him. mario will be bottom tier.

now onto ike. Ike can kill ANY character other than ganon,dk,bowser,dedede at 40% with his F smash. that alone is a scary thought. Remember how marth does increased damage and increased knockback with his tip? well ike does even MORE knockback AND damage with ALL of his sword......again, this makes people poop thier pants. Ike jabs are the one thing that can hurt the characters that can run circles around him. The ONLY THING that hold sike back is his speed/lag of his attacks/his predictable recovery. he will be high tier, not top.

in case some of you do not kow the order of the tiers:

Top
High
Mid
Low
Bottom

And how does a "smart" Ike recover from being thrown off far to the side?
His aether barely goes sideways.
So of course Ike uses dash to reach the ledge.
What happens then is Mario uses Fludd and hits Ike midway.
Sendling him diagonally up, then slowly floats down.
Tough in hindsight, I guess Mario grabbing the ledge would have been more effective(of course mario can still do it after fludd).

Guess I need to work extra hard for my Shiek.
Thanks for the info.




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iclim4 on 24 April 2008
shizzlee said:
 The last time I played with him, I think his Ike gave my Mario trouble, but my Fox was able to beat him.  I don't think that my Mario has ever won a fight against him.    

T__T
Would you say you've greatly improved between the last time you fought him and the time you fought me?

@Tao
Guess we're even. =P




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shizzlee on 24 April 2008

I would say that I have improved.



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Grey Acumen on 24 April 2008
Words Of Wisdom said:
brawl4life said:
lol tao .....i don't think I can bring my A game right now my mine is on inductance in AC circuits and sine waves -_- . Has WOW duel TGM yet ?

Well, do you see my name in his signature next to the "Lost to:" section? No?

That's probably a good indication that I haven't. ^_^

Meh, if I had just stopped at 3 games, he wouldn't have had my name in there either. I beat him the first two rounds pretty handidly, but then he mnaged to figure out a counter to kirbys running A.

 



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TGM on 24 April 2008
Tokoro said:

bleh, you talk about tiers a lot ; ; I personally hate them, it seems like figuring out the tiers is like telling people they need to use those characters to do remotely good. I guess it's neccessary for super tournaments or something. I just think people should play who they like, and try to have fun.

Anyway, I didn't know Olimar was even close to being top tier, makes me wanna play Lucario cause people only like him for his feet. lol ^^

Edit: oh right, I actually meant to ask if anyone wanted to play some later tonight ^^;


tier are just a list of "what character does best against what character". If you want to get good with a BAD character.....go for it. I am. Samus sucks big time. She will most likly be mid or low. Im not sur eif you were big into melee but there was a player named BUM who mained DK. In melee DK sucked hairy wang but BUM went to a torunament and beat Chudat........CHUDAT......CHUDAT IS THE 3RD BEST PLAYER ON EARTH......NOT TO MENTION ICE CLIMBERS IS DKs HARDEST MACTH UP IN MELEE. He also beat Isai, isai is THE BEST C FALCON on earth. So it goes to show that some times a "exception to the rule" is born. You COULD be that person.