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Are you jumping out because of the loss of free multiplayer?

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SvennoJ on 11 June 2013
Adinnieken said:
SvennoJ said:

It's a bit of both really. People have started expecting more then simple p2p online play that Nintendo offers.
To stay competitive they need to keep up with Microsoft's infrastructure, and that costs a lot of money indeed.
Sony tried to pay for that by charging publishers bandwidth fees, and that led to less demos on psn.
Then online passes came about, nobody liked that.
ps+ was a good way to generate some revenue, but why get ps+ with a new system with no backlog. Any games put on ps+ the first year is going to cost a lot more then it has for ps3.

Steam online play is still free, yet they don't have the burden of R&D costs and subsidizing a console. Their cut on sales all goes to the infrastructure.
The WiiU is still free, I don't have experience with it other the Mii Plaza though. I don't have any multiplayer games for it yet.

It sucks, as it will lock me out of playing with friends that don't want to get ps+.
But I understand the money has to come from somewhere.

If it's a choice between 399 and paid online, or 499,- limited demos and online passes, then it's simple for me as I already enjoy the value of ps+. I do wish they would keep simple p2p online free, but I guess it's too much to ask from developers to put 2 forms of online play in each game.

What about $299 and $15 a mont for two years (Xbox One)?

That would be 659,- instead of 599,- or less if you get the 15 months for 49,- deals.
I don't like contracts anyway and recurring monthly costs. I try to minimize those.

Since I mostly play single player I won't hesitate not to buy another extension of ps+ when the value isn't there anymore. For now I still have 3 ps+ games I want to play and haven't even started yet, plus a bunch of maybes, and the discounts are welcome too.
I won't pay 50 a year just to play online occasionally, that's why I cancelled live gold. It will be the same with ps4.

I guess it's good for people that never connect the console online. Why should they pay for the online infrastructure with the inital console price.



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Chark on 11 June 2013

I made a thread to push the #PS4freeonlineplay movement. PS+ is so popular Sony doesn't need to pay wall. Let's make sure they know it.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=162088&page=1#2



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

dahuman on 11 June 2013

I was going to pick it up once the price was fine with me but now I'm jumping the fuck out. If you wondered why I no longer own a 360, same exact fucking reason.



Keele on 11 June 2013
michael_stutzer said:
Keele said:
michael_stutzer said:
The number of games coming to Wii U in the next few years is less than the number of games I'll buy in that timeframe. It is not even an option. I have a PC and using it, it will be good for most of the next-gen. It has DRM all over it though, only reason I'm using it is the low prices.

I didn't even buy ps+. Sony was giving away one month subscriptions and  some Neogaf members had hundreds of them. I asked them nicely, some of them gave one code, some of them gave five etc. Some people are subbed to 2020.

I simply asked for the names and quotes of people who said that " paid multiplayer is terrible." and now saying " paid multiplayer is great.". That is the claim. Show me.

Aand, seriously where did I say that I have no problem with it? This is my first post: "I had a problem with paid multiplayer and still have.". Stop putting words in my mouth. Thank you. 

I don't see why it's necessary for anybody with a decent PC to have to buy the new Ps4. A majority of the things the Ps4 can do, the PC can do but better.

The DRM issue is something that you can solve. It's not something I have to live with like paid multiplayer. It's at a MUCH lesser scale too.

Okay, when that runs out then you'll have to pay for it. And tell me? What will you do?

I don't care about the claim. I just find it ironic how flexible this situation happens to be.

The weight of your problem is defined by how you treat this situation. And attempting to pin the blame on Microsoft and trying to comform with Sony's usage of this shows how little you care about this.

You people seem to care more about sticking it to somebody than taking a stand for yourself.

I don't think you can buy The Last of Us, Uncharted, Littlebigplanet, Heavy Rain, Infamous etc. from Steam. As far as I know. Haven't checked retail. The rest I won't even bother with. Lesser scale compared to what? PS4 has no DRM. PS3 doesn't too. Steam is the definition of DRM.

Who are you to know what will I do by the way? You seem to think you know me better than myself. I can say random things about you too you know. For example you are a new member who surprisingly decides to post today. It doesn't seem suspicious and I don't think you are an alt account. At all.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=162087&page=1#

 

''no drm''?

 

Those games are just a few. And the PC has plenty of games you can only get on PC. Surely you don't expect me to believe just a few games justifies the purchase of a console.

 

I mean, this whole ''don't really have a choice'' seems kind of farfetched to me.

 

Yes, keep saying that. But I asked you. What will you do. You still haven't answered.



hatmoza on 11 June 2013
Porcupine_I said:
i think the title of this thread should be changed to:

"Sony welcomes XBOX Gamers to PS4 by providing a experience they are comfortable with"


lol

Who are you, and why haven't I seduced you into sex yet?



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Porcupine_I on 11 June 2013
hatmoza said:
Porcupine_I said:
i think the title of this thread should be changed to:

"Sony welcomes XBOX Gamers to PS4 by providing a experience they are comfortable with"


lol

Who are you, and why haven't I seduced you into sex yet?

i was hired by badgenome to make bad jokes while he was on E3 blackout, but now that he is back i may as well stay until he pays me.

...so what was that about sex ?



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

michael_stutzer on 11 June 2013
Keele said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=162087&page=1#

 

''no drm''?

 

Those games are just a few. And the PC has plenty of games you can only get on PC. Surely you don't expect me to believe just a few games justifies the purchase of a console.

 

I mean, this whole ''don't really have a choice'' seems kind of farfetched to me.

 

Yes, keep saying that. But I asked you. What will you do. You still haven't answered.

It is up to the publishers, hardware has nothing to do with it. It was the same case with the PS3. There is nothing platform maker could do apart from cancelling the game. They will most likely be online passes but I am against online passes too. I didn't buy Uncharted 3 for example, even though it is my one of the most favorite franchises. Played the single player  one year later from a friend's disc. I am guessing you are a PC gamer. Did you protest Steam for DRM?

Only a single game can justify a console purchase. If you want to play that game you have no other choice. If Skyrim was a PC exclusive for example, many people would have to upgrade their PC. Don't tell that to Wii U owners.

I told you what I think about this before. I don't like it, I am against it. It was an early buy for me, now I won't buy for at least a few years to see if they change their mind. If many people do this now, they will quickly change their mind. I may buy it for the single player down the road.



NerdChills on 11 June 2013

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papamudd on 11 June 2013

Honestly, I think that stinks because I thought PS+ was awesome and felt "special" for having it... now that everyone will have it to play online makes it less special :p

However, it'll be great to be able to play WAY MORE GAMES online with people once the ps4 ps+ really kicks off... as it is right now I have way too many games to play and can't play a lot of them with people online since they don't have all those games. Heck I might even check out drive club now even though I don't like racing games.



Talal said:
I will permaban myself if the game releases in 2014.

in reference to KH3 release date

papamudd on 11 June 2013

Also who is really jumping out for $50 a year + 3 months usually??? There is still no pay wall blocking anything else. Also I think Gakai will be a separate fee...



Talal said:
I will permaban myself if the game releases in 2014.

in reference to KH3 release date