PS4 Now requires PS+ for MULTIPLAYER!

[SvennoJ]

Adinnieken said:

SvennoJ said:

It's a bit of both really. People have started expecting more then simple p2p online play that Nintendo offers.
To stay competitive they need to keep up with Microsoft's infrastructure, and that costs a lot of money indeed.
Sony tried to pay for that by charging publishers bandwidth fees, and that led to less demos on psn.
Then online passes came about, nobody liked that.
ps+ was a good way to generate some revenue, but why get ps+ with a new system with no backlog. Any games put on ps+ the first year is going to cost a lot more then it has for ps3.

Steam online play is still free, yet they don't have the burden of R&D costs and subsidizing a console. Their cut on sales all goes to the infrastructure.
The WiiU is still free, I don't have experience with it other the Mii Plaza though. I don't have any multiplayer games for it yet.

It sucks, as it will lock me out of playing with friends that don't want to get ps+.
But I understand the money has to come from somewhere.

If it's a choice between 399 and paid online, or 499,- limited demos and online passes, then it's simple for me as I already enjoy the value of ps+. I do wish they would keep simple p2p online free, but I guess it's too much to ask from developers to put 2 forms of online play in each game.

What about $299 and $15 a mont for two years (Xbox One)?

That would be 659,- instead of 599,- or less if you get the 15 months for 49,- deals.
I don't like contracts anyway and recurring monthly costs. I try to minimize those.

Since I mostly play single player I won't hesitate not to buy another extension of ps+ when the value isn't there anymore. For now I still have 3 ps+ games I want to play and haven't even started yet, plus a bunch of maybes, and the discounts are welcome too.
I won't pay 50 a year just to play online occasionally, that's why I cancelled live gold. It will be the same with ps4.

I guess it's good for people that never connect the console online. Why should they pay for the online infrastructure with the inital console price.