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Microsoft didn't decline because they want to get a cut out of used game sales. None of the big publishers can exist without having their games on the consoles with the largest market share. The platform holders are in a stronger position than the publishers.



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The fact that every negative thread about it has become a soap box for some of the most ignorant posters to freely spit drivel over this community. It would also seem half the site rules don't count when it comes to XBO threads.



Michael-5 said:

Not to beat a dead horse, but I hear the used game policy really ins't that bad.

And that's what they're hoping you'll think, oh it's not that bad we can live with it. Anything, even the slightest little thing, that gets in the way of someone freely giving away or selling a game (on disc) they bought so that someone else can play the game is unacceptable.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

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I have nothing against the console but I can't stand the people that think they know what's best for me as a gamer. It's like the religious fanatics that try to ban alcohol, pornography, skirts, etc, because they are morally against them and feel others shouldn't be able to do anything they don't personally approve of.

Not only that but the constant whining about it makes it even more annoying. It's like when you see the latest "Xbox Live should be free" thread from some idiot that thinks their thread is going to cover some new ground that the last 1000 such threads didn't.

If someone doesn't want to buy something then fine that's their decision but they need to learn to respect other people's choices and let the market decide what is going to happen.  Nobody appreciates having to read posts bashing something they like so they should have the courtesy of not doing it to others.



The fact that's its changing the formula that proved a success this generation by introducing anti consumer factors that may not affect me, but leaves them wondering how much further they can push with the greeds before the console becomes unplayable by anyone other than upper class.

Supporting a console that introduces such shitty measures just encourages them to see how much further they can push us before the breaking point. Before the announcement I was confident that if any next gen console I would get is Xbox, but not anymore, might just get Wii U or whatever.



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RolStoppable said:
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Ostro we have a right to voice our opinions when a company is changing the freaking industry as a whole for the worse. It doesn't mean that we are cry babies.

Some people who love gaming can't afford $60 a game and want to just rent games for some $ a month but guess what with M$'s new policy they can't.

Wanna share games with your college or local buddies? Well you gotta go through many loops in order to do it.  

And this is just the start of it. If people weren't vocal (cry babies as you call them) then the U.S. wouldn't exist. Slavery would still exist. Monopolies would still be ripping of customers and no one would do shit about it. Be Vocal and Be proud.

It's not "a" company, it's several companies. The major third party publishers (the likes of EA and Activision) demanded this and Microsoft didn't decline, because they need those companies' games. It's pretty shortsighted to blame Microsoft alone.

I am curious. Where exactly would these major publishers go to do their business if M$ declined them DRM? We already know for sure that Nintendo aren't putting any DRM in their box and Sony has a good chance of not doing it as well. So neither of these platforms are alternatives that have DRM for publishers to go to after boycotting Xbone for not having DRM.

This all screams of M$ getting in bed with publishers to nickle and dime the consumers in the worst ways possible.



 

NotStan said:
The fact that's its changing the formula that proved a success this generation by introducing anti consumer factors that may not affect me, but leaves them wondering how much further they can push with the greeds before the console becomes unplayable by anyone other than upper class.

Supporting a console that introduces such shitty measures just encourages them to see how much further they can push us before the breaking point. Before the announcement I was confident that if any next gen console I would get is Xbox, but not anymore, might just get Wii U or whatever.


If it was a successful formula there wouldn't have been so many studio closures this generation.



@legend,

Because the studios mismanage and decide overpolish games which are utter turds that dont sell consumers should suffer? Its the industry that needs to change, not towards punishing the consumer but towards its own costs and management. Even with that argument, the used games won't likely bring in as much money as the few shops that will trade them will monopolize the market and will be able to control the trade in prices, meaning that gamers will likely miss out on more money that they could get back after trading the game in, if it turned out that polished turf. That will likely make buying games which are not already set in concrete as solid franchises a risky enterprise to purchase. If anything I think the smaller studios will suffer even more, granted the bigger boys like Activision and ea already have established franchises, and that's all they would have to make to turn profit, eliminating the need for additional studios that would create new IPs, if anything this move will stifle creativity and make Xbox one games as risky venture, making it a more safe bet to develop for another platform and just making half assed ports to Xbox, which dont require as much time or money ae building equal versions from ground up.

Bottom line is, the studios this generation have fucked up themselves mostly, and you're saying that the measures introduced next gen will minimize the closing of smaller studios? I think not, if anything it will make the Xbox third party support weaker or cause even more closures than this gen.



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And we will end up having 8 studios in EA, 2 making mass effect, 2 making battlefield, 2 making moh and 2 making nfs. Sounds awesome.



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Legend11 said:

If it was a successful formula there wouldn't have been so many studio closures this generation.

Its been a successful formula since the NES.

The problem isnt at retail, the problem is with publishers putting big budgets on games that are either a) rubbish or b) dont have appeal they expect. Square Enix and Tomb Raider are a perfect example of point b. They expected Tomb Raider to sell 10 Million units, when the series on average sells less than 3 Million units. It didnt do as well as SE wanted it to, but Tomb Raider sold very, very well for what it is - a Tomb Raider game.

What needs to be changed is the perception that the gaming industry is Hollywood. It isnt. When more and more developers are spending more and more money on products that dont have the appeal, then studios will shut down. Its not the fault of the consumer. Its not the fault of retailers. Its the fault of the higher ups and game developer ego's.

There is a reason why the Indie scene is bigger than its ever been. There is a reason why Nintendo software makes Billions. There is a reason why THQ is no more. One makes games with budgets. One doesnt spend $100 Million on a game. One spent Millions and Millions on a drawing peripheral.