Hey lad, we can all agree that Nintendo is not the all saint in the gaming industry, sure they have done some blundering choices in the past (and even now, which God forbid, what were they thinking about the 3rd-parties). But you have to admit they made some better decissions that kept themselves afloat and even turn the tide in their favour (on many occassions), plus one of the many (or few, depending on how you look) company that doesn't f*** us off as a consumer... ;)

@TheJimbo1234: You must have some twisted sence that is difficult for me to unravel and understand your mind (not giving up, though). :/

Dunno, but it's been a phenominon since the N64 era, and honestly, it dates all the way back to Sega of America's "Nintendon't" ads.

Region-locking as a way to control pricing in each region. Funny how Nintendo fanboys forget about that.

Oh, don't get us started on that, mate!

You know, it is possible for two adults to have a disagreement on something, without devolving into the speak and rhetoric of an immature, spoiled 13 year old troll. You ARE aware of that right? Just checking, because your post comes off like exactly that.

I stated RATHER clearly that Nintendo is obviously a company out to make money. I also stated RATHER clearly that Yamauchi's business tactics were at least somewhat ruthless. I ALSO stated the already-long-known reasons they impemented those tactics in the first place, as WELL as the wide-spread common knowledge that they had already really relaxed those tactics by the SNES era.

And again, where do you get this crap that publishers didn't make money with Nintendo? Please, do tell me WHAT big, relevant publishers DIDN'T make money with Nintendo. Would it be Capcom? Nope, their games sold like hotcakes on SNES, and far better than they did on Genesis. And theirs were always some of the highest selling on NES. Konami then? Nope, seems like they did rather well for themselves on SNES too, as with the NES before it. Square? Well damn it, seems that FFIV, VI, Chrono Trigger, Mario RPG, etc. all did RATHER well on store shelves. Enix not as much in the States, but games like Actraiser and Illusion of Gaia still did good business for them. Acclaim/Midway? Again, there games like Mortal Kombat, etc. did really well, especially MK2.

So I'm just not really sure who you're referring to that didn't make money with Nintendo back in the day. Because what I was talking about, was SPECIFICALLY in reply to your insenuation that Nintendo's third party issues of today, have something at all to do with third parties' reasons for going with Playstation back in the N64 era. And I very clearly pointed out information that was ALSO openly and readily available common knowledge to any gamer who bothers to look. Those big publishers left because of the CD format and nothing else. Many that stayed, like Midway, Acclaim, THQ, etc, did in fact make money on N64 with games like Turok, Doom 64, NBA Hangtime, Extreme G, SF Rush, Cruis'n World, Wrestlemania 2000, etc.

And as for that drivel at the end....and I'm not even sure a single word of that really merits response. You treating my post as if I'm just some raving "Nintendo Defense Force" kid, when that isn't the case at all, is laughable. What you're doing is an age old internet forum tactic, wherein you disagree with someone's post, so instead of acting like a grown up and discussing things rationally, agreeing to disagree, etc., you instead treat that person like their opinion is invalid because "Oh, you're just an _____ fan". That tactic is as old as it is lame. I highly suggest the next time you want to have a discussion, try actually having a discussion, and not just performing the equivalent of an internet tantrum. Thanks and have a nice day.

But having a biased against Nintendo, that is like saying they want to ditch Nintendo for reasons beyond not having their interest there. It makes no sense. Especially when we are talking about a lot of third parties. Third parties nowadays try to get their stuff on as many platforms as possible, I don't see any other reason for not putting their games on Nintendo consoles other than they thinking they have no interests there.  Is it that hard to think that third parties may have reasons to keep away from Nintendo, when there are so many?

Man, Sega was a direct competitor to Nintendo, is it really that surprising that they would come with a motto like that? XD But that's just a thing of the past now that Sega made of Sonic a private escort for Nintendo and put him to sleep with Mario to make love for three next games.

Blimey, you made me feel like the good cop here. .  . *facepalm

well this thread went to the shitters.

Ot: Nintendo has never screwed me over as a consumer. There consoles are reliable and the games are superb.They just need to get their release schedule right. It is one reason why i like them so much. I am sure they are not going to pull anti-consumer policies like drm and restrictive used game garbage

Gamecube and N64 beg to differ. Wii U is in for a very rough ride if it tries to rely on Mario and Pokemon spin off games.

I was considering WiiU if Sony shat on us with DRM, but I've had a rethink and I'll go full rebel and get Ouya. I'm not into Bayonetta, I actively dislike Mario, and Zelda doesn't float my boat, so there's not much reason for me to go for Nintendo as a protest vote, so I might as well use my protest vote to reject the console triumverate in its entirety.

I just hope PS4 is too expensive for my sons to buy with their own savings. They've said they want PS4 no matter what, and if they don't need to rely on a cash injection from me I won't be able to keep PS4 out of the house.

How do you know they will be amazing, hmm? Can you see into the future, huh?
Can you literally see into the future and confirm that the WiiU will get amazing games? So amazing, that we should all go out and buy Wii U because games are coming...and they will be amazing?

Nintendo is no saint either. News are that they are trying to claim ad revenue money from people doing Let's Play videos. Granted, they can legally do it, just like how Sony and MS may want to block used games on THEIR consoles, because those videos contain Nintendo-related content. That is a hefty slap in the face to many followers of these videos and the makers.

You can't win them all, hivy.