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Otakumegane said:

No.....wait.

This might actually work. Give the rights to spy on the Chinese people through Kinect to the government there. (China will get rid of the ban or something for this then)

You now have access to a huge market and will deter the rampant piracy that goes on in China.

The problem is, is China worth the rest of the world? And I can't imagine that they have good enough online for this.

The more affluent tend to live in the more urban centers.  I'm guessing Internet access in urban centers is fine.

Is the peasant farmer out in the far edges of the country going to purchase one?  Probably no.  There's likely no infrastructure to support it (Power or Internet), so it wouldn't make much sense. 



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Zappykins said:
I think you may be on to something. Especially, the daily check in on the net is going to make it really hard to hack/pirate.

A TV box that is hard to pirate that also plays games! You are one smart little chipmunk.

(My problem is I don't have or want a cable box. I don't think it includes a tuner, so not sure if I can use the TV Features. (Although, I think the cable company will give me one if I want. I just don't want.))

I still think Microsoft is planning on rolling out an IPTV service.  What they've done with the Guide is a lot of work simply to use it for cable.  Understand, MediaRoom has a guide built into it, and it has many of the same features as the Guide on Xbox One.  Why sell MediaRoom, keep a bunch of patents related to commercials (more than the one posted about here), patents related to delivering programming, etc, and not have something more planned?



Adinnieken said:
chapset said:
Adinnieken said:

The primary reason Microsoft focused so heavily on media entertainment wasn't to win the living room, but China.  With China's policy against gaming consoles, pushing the Xbox One as a media/communications hub will allow it to more easily gain access to that market.

With access to China's 1.3 billion people, it'll give Microsoft access to the largest consumer market in the world.  Because of this, Sony will not only answer Microsoft, but follow them.   


The xbone and ps4 will be too expensive for 80% of the chinese population and Kinect will most likely not work there for years the same for all those xbox tv apps

China, why wouldn't it work there?  There are over 6500 channels in the US between digital, non-digital over-the-air, and cable channels.  There are approximately 3,000 in China.  I think if Microsoft can figure out the US, it can figure out China.

Kinect doesn't work in most non english speaking countries for starters, I don't even know how many cable providers there is in China but Microsoft will have to strike a deal with all the important ones for it to be able to reach an important portion of the population, the majority of the chinese don't make enough money to be able to afford the xbone or ps4, roughly 50% of the population has access to the internet which is not as fast as the Internet you get in the States. There is a lot of infrastucture and logistic problems Microsoft will have to face to be able to give them access to the services the US consumers will have at launch. Also we don't even know if they will be able to sell their console in China, the xbox 360 didn't realease there.



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When they launch Xbox Live there I'll consider it. Otherwise those Xbones are going to have a hard time going online everyday.



no. its for money and control.



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Adinnieken said:
Zappykins said:
I think you may be on to something. Especially, the daily check in on the net is going to make it really hard to hack/pirate.

A TV box that is hard to pirate that also plays games! You are one smart little chipmunk.

(My problem is I don't have or want a cable box. I don't think it includes a tuner, so not sure if I can use the TV Features. (Although, I think the cable company will give me one if I want. I just don't want.))

I still think Microsoft is planning on rolling out an IPTV service.  What they've done with the Guide is a lot of work simply to use it for cable.  Understand, MediaRoom has a guide built into it, and it has many of the same features as the Guide on Xbox One.  Why sell MediaRoom, keep a bunch of patents related to commercials (more than the one posted about here), patents related to delivering programming, etc, and not have something more planned?

That would be nice, I would be happy to drop my local provider, provided it’s not too much of a price difference.  Especially if I can get a nice convenient guide - if they added voice search to that, Oh, total Win-Win with icing on top! 

That might make me a day one adopter. But I think they are trying to work with the existing cable companies – or they would be fighting back hard to stop the Xbox One.

Like the curent ESPN or HBO Go, I think some will come through the cable companies.

 



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

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Yeah if MS cuts into a deal with the Chinese government I can totally see this happening.

The info through Kinect spying is invaluable. Wow. I can't believe I didn't think of this beforehand. And MS can do it too. They have huge connections.



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chapset said:

Kinect doesn't work in most non english speaking countries for starters, I don't even know how many cable providers there is in China but Microsoft will have to strike a deal with all the important ones for it to be able to reach an important portion of the population, the majority of the chinese don't make enough money to be able to afford the xbone or ps4, roughly 50% of the population has access to the internet which is not as fast as the Internet you get in the States. There is a lot of infrastucture and logistic problems Microsoft will have to face to be able to give them access to the services the US consumers will have at launch. Also we don't even know if they will be able to sell their console in China, the xbox 360 didn't realease there.

Couldn’t they just add Chinese Language Support?  At least the two major ones.  And even if only small percentage of the people with internet access in China buy it, it would be a huge success.

They launched with English, Japanese and Mexican Spanish.  Every so often they have been adding other languages. It currently supports: Australia English, Canada English, Canada French, France French, Germany German, Ireland English, Italy Italian, Japan Japanese, Mexico Spanish, New Zealand English, Spain Spanish, United Kingdom English, United States English

Even Skyrim Kinect support includes English, French, Italian, German, Spanish and Dova (Dragon).  Surly, if Kinect can learn to speak Dragon it could learn Chinese.

                                                              

 



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

Tell me a funny joke!

Zappykins said:
chapset said:

Kinect doesn't work in most non english speaking countries for starters, I don't even know how many cable providers there is in China but Microsoft will have to strike a deal with all the important ones for it to be able to reach an important portion of the population, the majority of the chinese don't make enough money to be able to afford the xbone or ps4, roughly 50% of the population has access to the internet which is not as fast as the Internet you get in the States. There is a lot of infrastucture and logistic problems Microsoft will have to face to be able to give them access to the services the US consumers will have at launch. Also we don't even know if they will be able to sell their console in China, the xbox 360 didn't realease there.

Couldn’t they just add Chinese Language Support?  At least the two major ones.  And even if only small percentage of the people with internet access in China buy it, it would be a huge success.

They launched with English, Japanese and Mexican Spanish.  Every so often they have been adding other languages. It currently supports: Australia English, Canada English, Canada French, France French, Germany German, Ireland English, Italy Italian, Japan Japanese, Mexico Spanish, New Zealand English, Spain Spanish, United Kingdom English, United States English

Even Skyrim Kinect support includes English, French, Italian, German, Spanish and Dova (Dragon).  Surly, if Kinect can learn to speak Dragon it could learn Chinese.

                                                              

 

You overestimate the chinese market, most 360 that got imported there are hacked and the number is comparable to the sales in japan, they could had the chinese dialects for kinect but even if they are able to sell in China I don't see how they could do much better than what they did this gen, now that piracy will be harder on the xbone



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chapset said:
Adinnieken said:

The primary reason Microsoft focused so heavily on media entertainment wasn't to win the living room, but China.  With China's policy against gaming consoles, pushing the Xbox One as a media/communications hub will allow it to more easily gain access to that market.

With access to China's 1.3 billion people, it'll give Microsoft access to the largest consumer market in the world.  Because of this, Sony will not only answer Microsoft, but follow them.   


The xbone and ps4 will be too expensive for 80% of the chinese population and Kinect will most likely not work there for years the same for all those xbox tv apps

Do the math dude..  If 20% of the chinese population can afford these products the market size rivals north american. China has a population of 1.4 billion. The potential is huge.