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RolStoppable said:

It's too bad that terrorists don't get it in their heads that the "don't trust your government, because they can't protect you from people like us" strategy isn't going to convince anyone that the government is bad. It actually seems to have the opposite effect, because the government can run some routines to make people more confident in them. How come that terrorists still haven't realized this?

This. Just this.

At the same time I wanted to say that people who respond to this with "terrorists are evil" don't understand that there is a reason why these people are doing these things. Have any of you watched Children of Men? We see these things from the outside but there is a deeper issue.

These radicals see injustice in the arab world from the western nations and that MUST be addressed. I'm not even muslim and I understand this. The way these people are going about addressing their problem is a way of intense passion, and from the outside it seems like pure madness but we don't see the atrocities our western societies are doing on their people. It's easy to say turn the other cheek, but put yourselves in their shoes for a minute.

And true that their method was inflamed with passion there are much smarter ways to go about it. Either way whether government or individuals committing violence, it is wrong, but you can't blame individuals for inflicting violence when the governments are committing abhorrent crimes and being given a free pass on it, the human heart doesn't tolerate injustice like that.

All in all, put yourselves in their shoes for a second, and also realize that these people may not be the most intelligent of all (running at gunmenwith blades, bravo).



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Umm why are some people here blaming religion? Just because a guy yelled something related to religion? The whole time he was talking about troops....



Only one word can save the Uk from radical islam. 


UKIP



Its a shame we abolished the death penalty. These fuckers deserve to be hanged.



RedInker said:
Its a shame we abolished the death penalty. These fuckers deserve to be hanged.

What about the government, what does it deserve for the way it treats other contries as it pleases (be it US or UK)?



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that was really strange shit that happened here. I don't want to turn on the TV or look at any newspapers because I know I'll be seeing that picture of the main killer with his hands all covered in blood and that was really disturbing and it kept me and a lot of people up at night.

but anyway they showed pics of the guy that was almost beheaded and I was nearly in tears today in the library finishing off my assignments.



Soleron said:
Guy killed in East London -> no one cares

Guy killed in East London IN THE NAME OF ISLAM -> nation terrorised for weeks by incessant news stories and alarmism


i guess the way he was killed and what happened afterwards was very very different from just a guy who  was killed.



sales2099 said:
Radical Islam, especially emerging in Western countries, is a problem that must be fixed.

This type of behavior might have flied in the crusades period, but it seems every religion has evolved with the times and only this one's radicals are stuck in the dark ages.


islam has a system that is preventing the islam from evolution.

 

A muslim is not allowed to question the quran and all that stuff.

 

of course islam was evolving for some times but is also always bouncing back into dark ages..The quran is an instruction manual for war,slavery and bullying other cultures and religions-full with evil things(ignored by muslims) and a few good things(perpetually quoted by muslims)



foodfather said:

Only one word can save the Uk from radical islam. 


UKIP

They will just make it worse, just look at how Nigel Farage got treated in Edinburgh the other day. It's called UKIP, but it's really a party for old english conservatives

~http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/nigel-farage-edinburgh-protesters-fascist-scum-1-2934516



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the2real4mafol said:
foodfather said:

Only one word can save the Uk from radical islam. 


UKIP

They will just make it worse, just look at how Nigel Farage got treated in Edinburgh the other day. It's called UKIP, but it's really a party for old english conservatives

~http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/nigel-farage-edinburgh-protesters-fascist-scum-1-2934516

OK, but

- They're not racist (but they probably have some racist members)
- They picked up enough votes to decide the next election in favour of Labour, i.e. they are politically relevant
- Unlike other political parties they'd probably do exactly what they claim to do if they entered power: leave Europe and restrict immigration

Not that that will solve the tension.