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drkohler on 22 May 2013

@walsufnir and what is missing in your sig picture?

Right - the big, bulky external power brick (I wonder if somebody "forgot" to include it in the setup)...



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walsufnir on 22 May 2013
CGI-Quality said:
walsufnir said:
CGI-Quality said:

I'm liking these:

-pic


Do you? So bad shopped :)

The Xbox One's is probably closer to accuracy. I like simple box arts, not confusing, clusterf*ck travesties.

Do you think?! I think especially at the top and the bottom you can see that the pic is fake or let's say "constructed". But if the art will stay I'd be fine with that.



cunger on 22 May 2013
walsufnir said:
cunger said:
walsufnir said:
cunger said:

When did microsoft confirm ddr?


I can show you that it's ddr3 :)


Please do.

Ok,at first we take a close-up picture of wired:

URL of it here: http://gimbot.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Xbox-one-mainboard-exposed.jpg

Then we take a closer look on the ram (right hand side, it surrounds the apu), there we can see that there is "D9PZN" written on it.

We put this on google and get the first hit: http://www.micron.com/parts/dram/ddr3-sdram/mt41j256m16ha-093

Tada!


holy..  good job.



walsufnir on 22 May 2013
cunger said:
walsufnir said:
cunger said:
walsufnir said:
cunger said:

When did microsoft confirm ddr?


I can show you that it's ddr3 :)


Please do.

Ok,at first we take a close-up picture of wired:

URL of it here: http://gimbot.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Xbox-one-mainboard-exposed.jpg

Then we take a closer look on the ram (right hand side, it surrounds the apu), there we can see that there is "D9PZN" written on it.

We put this on google and get the first hit: http://www.micron.com/parts/dram/ddr3-sdram/mt41j256m16ha-093

Tada!


holy..  good job.


Thanks :)



forevercloud3000 on 22 May 2013

So lets talk about how MS has some/most of the main media backpeddling and trying to diffuse how bad this thing was. :P

Forbes fluff article was flailing so hard, not even funny. Its like did we watch the same thing???Because some of these sites are full of it.

Less we forget that they had "Plants" in the back of the room cheering when all the actual press was completely bemused according to Sessler.



      

      

      

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walsufnir on 23 May 2013
drkohler said:

@walsufnir and what is missing in your sig picture?

Right - the big, bulky external power brick (I wonder if somebody "forgot" to include it in the setup)...


Why do you post this in a thread and not on my wall or via pm? This has nothing to do with this thread.



Nyleveia on 26 May 2013

Why is "TV Tuner Functionality" still listed under Xbox One? it doesn't have a TV tuner as i've already clearly stated, you can only watch tv on it if you have another device to put the TV signal IN to the console via HDMI, i.e. sky box, cable box, virgin media box, bt box, or a freeview/freeview hd box (though i dont really think freeview boxes will work without still needing the channel to be changed with its original remote).

Case in point though.

"TV Tuner Functionality" doesn't exist, it's just a HDMI input that passes the signal through an overlay and spits it out to the tv.



Legend11 on 26 May 2013
forevercloud3000 said:

So let me see If I got this right....

 

PS4

Xbox One

Always Online?

No, to our knowledge. Sony has stated they will not require a constant Internet Connection with PS4.

Yes and No. XBO will require your system go through a verification scan at least once a day for your installed games to operate.

Backwards Compatibility?

Not traditionally. Sony has talked about offering some level of BC through Gakai/Cloud service.

No.

Second Hand Games?

Offline capable DRM but left up to Developers to use it.

All games are downloaded to HDD so if sold second hand it will not operate.

What is Included?

Console, Controller, PS4 Eye, Headset

Console, Controller, No Headset in contrast with 360, Kinect

Specs?

8GB of GDDR5 RAM(1 Dedicated to OS but launch games using only 4GB), BluRay Drive, HDMI, Wifi, AMD APU, Jaguar CPU

8GB of DDR3 RAM(5 Dedicated to Games), BluRay Drive, 3.0 USB,HDMI, Wifi, Kinect 2.0, 500GB HDD(cannot be replaced), utilized a WINDOWS 8 Kernel.AMD APU, Jaguar CPU

Controllers?

Dualshock 4 is slightly bigger, Analogs further spaced apart, has a touch pad. Light Sensor bar utilized for position tracking and color changes to differenciate players. Controller has built in speaker for more dynamic sounds and a headset jack. Share Button. Rechargable Battery built in.

Basic same design as 360 controller. Better D-Pad. Triggers have built in individual rumble systems. Head Set jack. Takes AA Batteries. Voice activation of console Via Kinect

Known Games?

Killzone:Shadow Fall, Infamous Second Son, The Witness, Drive Club, Destiny, Knack, Watch Dogs, Call of Duty:Ghost, Battlefield 4, Diablo III, Deep Down,  The Witcher 3, Assassin’s Creed IV, Cyberpunk 2077, Thief, Carmegeddon:Reincarnated, Batman: Arkham Orgins, Sniper Elite III, The Evil Within, Hohokum, Doki Doki Universe

Call of Duty:Ghost, Forza 5, Fifa 2014, Madden 2014, Watch Dogs, Battlefield 4, Destiny, Quantum Break, Thief, UFC, NBA Live, Assassin’s Creed IV, Batman: Arkham Orgins

Features?

Download everything in the background. Be able to start a game shortly after it starts to Download, Share Pics and Videos across internet. Allow Remote access to friends to assist in a game. Dynamic multitasking allowing multiple apps to be run simultaneously (Music, Video Games ,PS Store, Downloads, etc). Cross-Play with Vita. Live Recording of Gameplay. Be able to access PS4 features through other devices.

Possible Cloud Computing to boost capabilities of Console. TV Tuner Functionality. Voice command control via Kinect. Live recording of Gameplay. Able to instantly upload videos. XBL upgrade:300,000 servers and all data can be saved to Cloud so it can be accessed anywhere.

# of Exclusives?

5 Games so far. Watch Dogs DLC. Rumored 12 Exclusive Titles to reveal at E3. Square Enix stated an “Exciting” game reveal at E3. Quantum Dreams working on PS4 title(NEW IP). Sony 1st and 2nd Party all split into two teams working on Exclusives.

2 Games so far. Halo:The TV Series. COD DLC. 15 XBO exclusives rumoured for the first year.8 of which will be new IPs. A new RARE title from a well known IP of theirs to be revealed at E3.

I might be missing a few things but this looks like the gist of it. I am sure many of those listed games for PS4 and XBO will be multiplat but this is just what was officially said.


When you have PS4 having more features than Xbox One you pretty much know that you missed some things.  One of the biggest complaints about Xbox One is that it's not focused enough which should tell someone that in a list of features it would have more.  Also I don't understand some of the ones listed as PS4 features yet not the equivalent (and actually more powerful) Xbox One features. 

Take this for example: "Be able to access PS4 features through other devices.", doesn't that sound like Sony's equivalent to Xbox Smartglass?

Dynamic multitasking?   What do you call Xbox One being able to condense a live video feed into a smaller window using gestures while a web search is conducted in another window using voice commands while a box pops up showing that a friend wants to talk to you?  Actually I don't even see Skype listed with the ability of having conferences with everyone getting their own window on the screen.

What about the real time Fantasy Football feature, I'm pretty sure that Sony has nothing like that.  What about the ability to instantaneously resume all your store bought games without the need of putting a blu-ray disc back in the drive after the original installation?  Can the PS4 switch instantly from TV to any installed videogame with just a voice command?  Can it look up a tv guide using just your voice?  The list goes on and on...



forevercloud3000 on 27 May 2013
Legend11 said:
forevercloud3000 said:

So let me see If I got this right....


 

PS4

Xbox One

Always Online?

No, to our knowledge. Sony has stated they will not require a constant Internet Connection with PS4.

Yes and No. XBO will require your system go through a verification scan at least once a day for your installed games to operate.

Backwards Compatibility?

Not traditionally. Sony has talked about offering some level of BC through Gakai/Cloud service.

No.

Second Hand Games?

Offline capable DRM but left up to Developers to use it.

All games are downloaded to HDD so if sold second hand it will not operate.

What is Included?

Console, Controller, PS4 Eye, Headset

Console, Controller, No Headset in contrast with 360, Kinect

Specs?

8GB of GDDR5 RAM(1 Dedicated to OS but launch games using only 4GB), BluRay Drive, HDMI, Wifi, AMD APU, Jaguar CPU

8GB of DDR3 RAM(5 Dedicated to Games), BluRay Drive, 3.0 USB,HDMI, Wifi, Kinect 2.0, 500GB HDD(cannot be replaced), utilized a WINDOWS 8 Kernel.AMD APU, Jaguar CPU

Controllers?

Dualshock 4 is slightly bigger, Analogs further spaced apart, has a touch pad. Light Sensor bar utilized for position tracking and color changes to differenciate players. Controller has built in speaker for more dynamic sounds and a headset jack. Share Button. Rechargable Battery built in.

Basic same design as 360 controller. Better D-Pad. Triggers have built in individual rumble systems. Head Set jack. Takes AA Batteries. Voice activation of console Via Kinect

Known Games?

Killzone:Shadow Fall, Infamous Second Son, The Witness, Drive Club, Destiny, Knack, Watch Dogs, Call of Duty:Ghost, Battlefield 4, Diablo III, Deep Down,  The Witcher 3, Assassin’s Creed IV, Cyberpunk 2077, Thief, Carmegeddon:Reincarnated, Batman: Arkham Orgins, Sniper Elite III, The Evil Within, Hohokum, Doki Doki Universe

Call of Duty:Ghost, Forza 5, Fifa 2014, Madden 2014, Watch Dogs, Battlefield 4, Destiny, Quantum Break, Thief, UFC, NBA Live, Assassin’s Creed IV, Batman: Arkham Orgins, The Evil Within

Features?

Download everything in the background. Be able to start a game shortly after it starts to Download, Share Pics and Videos across internet. Allow Remote access to friends to assist in a game. Dynamic multitasking allowing multiple apps to be run simultaneously (Music, Video Games ,PS Store, Downloads, etc). Cross-Play with Vita. Live Recording of Gameplay. Be able to access PS4 features through other devices.

Possible Cloud Computing to boost capabilities of Console. TV Tuner Functionality allowing your existing TV channels to be  accessible through XBO. Voice command control via Kinect for games as well as Media functions. Live recording of Gameplay. Able to instantly upload videos. XBL upgrade:300,000 servers and all data can be saved to Cloud so it can be accessed anywhere. Conjoins with Smartglass to allow interactive capabilities with Xbox One.Dynamic Multitasking. Access to FFL through XBO.

# of Exclusives?

5 Games so far. Watch Dogs DLC. Rumored 12 Exclusive Titles to reveal at E3. Square Enix stated an “Exciting” game reveal at E3. Quantum Dreams working on PS4 title(NEW IP). Sony 1st and 2nd Party all split into two teams working on Exclusives.

2 Games so far. Halo:The TV Series. COD DLC. 15 XBO exclusives rumoured for the first year.8 of which will be new IPs. A new RARE title from a well known IP of theirs to be revealed at E3.

I might be missing a few things but this looks like the gist of it. I am sure many of those listed games for PS4 and XBO will be multiplat but this is just what was officially said.


When you have PS4 having more features than Xbox One you pretty much know that you missed some things.  One of the biggest complaints about Xbox One is that it's not focused enough which should tell someone that in a list of features it would have more.  Also I don't understand some of the ones listed as PS4 features yet not the equivalent (and actually more powerful) Xbox One features. 

Take this for example: "Be able to access PS4 features through other devices.", doesn't that sound like Sony's equivalent to Xbox Smartglass?

Dynamic multitasking?   What do you call Xbox One being able to condense a live video feed into a smaller window using gestures while a web search is conducted in another window using voice commands while a box pops up showing that a friend wants to talk to you?  Actually I don't even see Skype listed with the ability of having conferences with everyone getting their own window on the screen.

What about the real time Fantasy Football feature, I'm pretty sure that Sony has nothing like that.  What about the ability to instantaneously resume all your store bought games without the need of putting a blu-ray disc back in the drive after the original installation?  Can the PS4 switch instantly from TV to any installed videogame with just a voice command?  Can it look up a tv guide using just your voice?  The list goes on and on...


Ok I added in some of what you and others asked, and altered others to clarify a bit more.

Some of what you listed would be redundant with things that are already there. No need to say you can switch between channels with voice when I already stated voice commands via kinect, etc. And being able to "Play all games instantly" is really just you have to install every game even with having the disc. If you were to buy all your games digitally this is a null point anyway.



      

      

      

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Aielyn on 27 May 2013
forevercloud3000 said:
Sorry was only including Next Gen Consoles. :P

Then where are the PS3 and 360? Those are next-gen consoles, right? I mean, that's what people were saying, even last year.

Oh, right - you define "next gen" by raw power, rather than, you know, the actual generation.