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S.T.A.G.E. on 21 May 2013
NintendoPie said:
SunofKratos said:
X Box one doomed confirmed?

Depends on how much they charge. Was that announced?


Thats the last straw. If the rumors of Sonys launch price are true MS is screwed. Theres no way the 720 is launching for less than $500 being bundled with the Kinect.



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Capulous on 21 May 2013
Hynad said:
Capulous said:
NoirSon said:
melbye said:
And now we know why EA are dumping Online Passe


So true, that is some lame ass shit Microsoft...


It doesn't explain why they are completely dumping online passes, unless there is something similar on the PS4. We know EA is not going exclusive. No comment on the Wii U as there are no EA games in development for the Wii U.


On the PS4, Sony has already said that it will be up to the publisher to implement this or not. So rest assured that EA will implement it.

Unfortunately, I'm sure most companies will. I do not buy used games, but I do trade in games. Don't really care for the idea, however I will wait for more information before deciding what I will do.



S.T.A.G.E. on 21 May 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ishiki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ishiki said:
it's probably not always on. It's probably like steam which requires it to be activated.

And like steam the games will be cracked.

If you wanted to let your friend borrow it couldn't you just give him your account? and you play games on his? Thats what I do with my brother on steam all the time.


If the Xbox reads your Blu Rays and can tell if its used or not how can it not be online? I just read a report that says the game locks up with Xbox Live and has manidtory installs.

If it's like steam, it uses the steam service to authenticate the install. And then it doesn't need to be authenticated anymore if you want to play in offline mode (Which also means no multiplayer). It would require online, to activate. But, not necessarily to play.

I have no idea if that's what xbox is using. But, that would be my guess, because console digital distribution and PC boxed and digital follows that model mostly. 


If they stop me from bringing my games to my friends house for game night they can screw themselves.

Assuming all of this is accurate, you would have to log into your Live account on your friends console. The license is tied to your acount.


Yes, but I am sure thats also for my console, because if I sell it to gamestop the secondary sale still demands manditory install.



Goddbless on 21 May 2013
badgenome said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

After the initial purchase the game is locked to the users account after the manditory install. The second console apparently must pay a fee.

Right, to keep you from just installing it on all your friends' Xboxes. But has it been confirmed that the second console won't still work as long as you have the disc inserted without paying the fee?


Your friend can play the game as much as they want with the disc, but if they want to play it directly off of the hdd they have to pay a fee. I'm not sure what's so bad about that... Why is no one reading the actual article?

I love this idea! If the fee is even half of the price of the retail game this works for me. I'm playing everything off of my hdd because I'm lazy and hate disc switching.

 

Edit: I hope you are all aware that you can log into your Xbox Live account without being online right?



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Heavenly_King on 21 May 2013
Capulous said:
Heavenly_King said:
Capulous said:
Heavenly_King said:
DirtyP2002 said:
It is the same way Steam works. I never heard anyone complain about that.
Actually it is more user friendly, because you can sell the game for a fee. Steam does not offer this option at all.

dafuq?  if you buy a PC retail game, you install it, and you register your activation key with your account so you can re-download it again if you wish; but if you give the disk to a friend; as long as he has the actual disk on his disk- tray he cant play the game without having to pay a thing.   The disk is not attached to your account, the activation code that comes with the disk, is.


Are you sure? Aren't Blizzard games tied to your account and allow only one user? Diablo III and Starcraft 2?

I was talking about how Steam handles retail copies.  I really dont know about Blizzard because I have not played a game from them in years

Aren't steam games tied to your account? You also mention retail and disk; steam is direct download only isn't it?

If you buy a retail game that is not made by blizzard, it comes with an activation key which can be used in Steam.  The key is registered to your account, and a digital copy of the game is available to you if you wish to download the game.   BUT the retail copy can always be played on other PC, as long as the disk is inserted on the disk tray.  That way, you dont require activation/nor internet connection to play the game.  As long as the disk is legit you wont have any problem.

In other words, what gets registered in your account with Steam is the activation key, and not the disk as in the case of the Xbox One.

EDIT: Steam acts as an online store for PC games, and also as a way of simplying your gaming comodities by offering digital copies with all retail games, so that you dont need to swap disks every time you want to play something.



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famousringo on 21 May 2013
BasilZero said:
pezus said:
Doesn't affect me much, but I do not endorse this. Sounds like some of the "ridiculous" rumours came true


Yep same here it doesnt affect me well not as much - but if your system were to break down and buy another system....well you would still have to pay this fee >.>

 

If I do buy Xbox One (lame name IMO) , it'll be at the end of the generation.


I'm pretty sure that if your system breaks down, you'll be able to migrate your Xbox account over to the new system and it will be licensed to play those games. You might still have to go through the joy of reinstalling all your games, either by disc or download.



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noname2200 on 21 May 2013
Goddbless said:


Your friend can play the game as much as they want with the disc, but if they want to play it directly off of the hdd they have to pay a fee. I'm not sure what's so bad about that... Why is no one reading the actual article?


Where are you getting that from? It's not from the article...



Capulous on 21 May 2013
Heavenly_King said:

If you buy a retail game that is not made by blizzard, it comes with an activation key which can be used in Steam.  The key is registered to your account, and a digital copy of the game is available to you if you wish to download the game.   BUT the retail copy can always be played on other PC, as long as the disk is inserted on the disk tray.  That way, you dont require activation/nor internet connection to play the game.  As long as the disk is legit you wont have any problem.

In other words, what gets registered in your account with Steam is the activation key, and not the disk as in the case of the Xbox One.


Nm, you are talking about buying a retail game and linking it to your steam account. I thought you were talking about purchasing a game off steam.  Wasn't aware of the digital option through steam for retail games though. Good to know.



deadly2choke on 21 May 2013

 

 

 

make up your mind microsoft



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Fifaguy360 on 21 May 2013

so there is no fee...confirmed by MS on twitter.

So this means you buy a game, you register it through XBL, then if you want to lend the game to your friend...you have to transfer your license (or issue a borrowers license like 30 day limit) to his XBL account?