Yeah, I understood that part, but it could still check for the disc to be inserted and then run from the HDD. I'm just wondering if it's as bad as it initially sounds.

Did they say this? I mean, it would explain why EA dropped online passes.

oh sony please dont do this with your first party games

Exactly! This is what I've been saying this whole hour....it perfectly explains EA's exclusive appearance on their show with the bonus content and the dropping of the online pass. 

Deal broken

Unless Sony go and do something completely stupid, it looks like I'll be buying a PS4 for my GAMING needs.

Where was it confirmed? Is game collecting dead for this gen? (except Wii U)

You'll just have to stop mooching off the hard work of publishers and pay your fair share from now on, pirate.

Now we have to wait and see what Sony's going to do.

I have to say, this fee that MS mentions can not be just a petty $10 fee like we pay nowadays with online passes.

Because think about it, what is stopping someone from going to a store, buying a game for $60, installing that game on to their drive which he can now play without disc, then passing the disc on to his ten friends who all pay the $10 fee to get the game each. So essentially MS just lost $(60-10)*10=$500 worth of money, which would be ridiculous and publishers would never agree to that. So the fee has to be something like $40-50 to offset people from simply passing around the disc to their friends. And if the used game fee is that high, then there won't be any more used games sales any longer since it'd almost be the same price as buying new. If not this then some other way we don't yet know of.

I'm getting a ps4, I really hope Sony doesnt go this rout but if they do...HEllO Wii-U!!

My majority of purchases are used games, so this will be a problem