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eFKac on 18 May 2013
dane007 said:
Player1x3 said:
dane007 said:
Player1x3 said:
dane007 said:
I don't see anything jaw dropping about the combat. its very basic and very simple with no variety . To me it look s exactly like Uncharted 3 combat which was far from jaw dropping. There games like TLOU with batter combat


It's not about combat. It's the variety and animation 


What variety? What you have shown has been done before and oher games have had better vareity then TLOU. Even have many ways of approaching yoru destination has been done before, haveing multiple ways of tackling yoour opponents hav ebeen done before. Its not new and definelty not innovative as alot of people have been claiming. Its just liek any adeventure with some stealth elements. TLOU is like uncharted series where it specialies in everythign from different games but is master of none. Don't get me wrong i have played all of thir games. Its entertaining enough but not jaw dropping worthy as animation and graphics aren't everythign.

Ok then, enlighten me. What other games have such an intelligent  dynamic AI and animations like the ones i showed above? Variety comes from different encounters enemy AI will provide due to their dynamic intelligence


Easy, Halo games, fear games and even splinter cell ai was quite good. All the videos that i have seen for TLOU showed nothing extraordinary. The enemy behaved like you normally see in a typical adventure . you do know an AI knowing how to take cover to prevent damage and knowing how to follow you till they kill or being able to check the area where you created the noise , is not a very intelligent Ai right? Doing all that and being able to flush you out and being able to flank you in any direction and out smart you,, thats what you call a smart dynamic ai which i have only seen in games like halo , fear and splinter cell. Just to add a not i own all consoles and i don't really like halo games .As i mention having good animation is pointless if the rest of game feels just entertaining and hav ebeen done before.

Halo I don't know but I don't think you can have such a variety in melee and a lot of contextual animations in a FPS, but I may be wrong.

But Fear and Splinter Cell are as good or better then what we saw from TLoU so far regarding aforementioned elements? You for real :D:D:D? Well then we have nothing to discuss really...



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outlawauron on 18 May 2013
the2real4mafol said:
outlawauron said:
the2real4mafol said:
PullusPardus said:
Xxain said:

... In Yakuza, Kiryu knocks someone to the ground, Breaks their nose , Double foot stomps on their already broke nose then elbow drops them on their broke nose... thats crazy. This? typical action movie fight scene.


no one plays that shitty repetitive brawler double dragon rip off.

I do and it's one of the better series from Sega. They need to bring Yakuza 5 to Europe. 

Pretty sure it missed the West completely.

I don't understand that, why release the first 4 in english but not bother with the new one, which looks like the best in the series so far. I mean they released that shitty zombie spin off so they should release 5

Well, they all sold very poorly in the West and it's quite sad if they stop and don't release what is said to be the best one.



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Player1x3 on 18 May 2013
dane007 said:
Player1x3 said:
dane007 said:
Player1x3 said:
dane007 said:
I don't see anything jaw dropping about the combat. its very basic and very simple with no variety . To me it look s exactly like Uncharted 3 combat which was far from jaw dropping. There games like TLOU with batter combat


It's not about combat. It's the variety and animation 


What variety? What you have shown has been done before and oher games have had better vareity then TLOU. Even have many ways of approaching yoru destination has been done before, haveing multiple ways of tackling yoour opponents hav ebeen done before. Its not new and definelty not innovative as alot of people have been claiming. Its just liek any adeventure with some stealth elements. TLOU is like uncharted series where it specialies in everythign from different games but is master of none. Don't get me wrong i have played all of thir games. Its entertaining enough but not jaw dropping worthy as animation and graphics aren't everythign.

Ok then, enlighten me. What other games have such an intelligent  dynamic AI and animations like the ones i showed above? Variety comes from different encounters enemy AI will provide due to their dynamic intelligence


Easy, Halo games, fear games and even splinter cell ai was quite good. All the videos that i have seen for TLOU showed nothing extraordinary. The enemy behaved like you normally see in a typical adventure . you do know an AI knowing how to take cover to prevent damage and knowing how to follow you till they kill or being able to check the area where you created the noise , is not a very intelligent Ai right? Doing all that and being able to flush you out and being able to flank you in any direction and out smart you,, thats what you call a smart dynamic ai which i have only seen in games like halo , fear and splinter cell. Just to add a not i own all consoles and i don't really like halo games .As i mention having good animation is pointless if the rest of game feels just entertaining and hav ebeen done before.


Uh, what ? Halo has an AI but there are only as many ways and animations you can kill them with. Besides, they don't act like living creatures in combat. They'll shoot to kill you despite you already killing 50 of its friends. There's no power ballance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qguDnY0C_Sg

You can see how at 12:15 the enemy realizes he's alone and starts to run away for his life. Then after you chase him, he hides and ambushes you from behind. That's a smart dynamic AI that goes far beyond than just taking cover to avoid damage 

bold 1: TLOU AI does that and much other stuff too. Did you even watch the gameplay videos?

bold 2:  eeh, what?



the2real4mafol on 18 May 2013
SxyxS said:
the2real4mafol said:
outlawauron said:
the2real4mafol said:
PullusPardus said:
Xxain said:

... In Yakuza, Kiryu knocks someone to the ground, Breaks their nose , Double foot stomps on their already broke nose then elbow drops them on their broke nose... thats crazy. This? typical action movie fight scene.


no one plays that shitty repetitive brawler double dragon rip off.

I do and it's one of the better series from Sega. They need to bring Yakuza 5 to Europe. 

Pretty sure it missed the West completely.

I don't understand that, why release the first 4 in english but not bother with the new one, which looks like the best in the series so far. I mean they released that shitty zombie spin off so they should release 5

maybe this is part of segas exclusiv deal with nintendo and hd yakuza 1+2.Maybe yakuza went the same way monster hunter did and this is just the first step.

Yakuza 5 isn't coming to Wii U though, it's on PS3 but only in Japan. Yakuza 1 and 2 HD is on both PS3 and Wii U but seems to be in Japan only! So fucking annoying 



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the2real4mafol on 18 May 2013
outlawauron said:
the2real4mafol said:
outlawauron said:
the2real4mafol said:
PullusPardus said:
Xxain said:

... In Yakuza, Kiryu knocks someone to the ground, Breaks their nose , Double foot stomps on their already broke nose then elbow drops them on their broke nose... thats crazy. This? typical action movie fight scene.


no one plays that shitty repetitive brawler double dragon rip off.

I do and it's one of the better series from Sega. They need to bring Yakuza 5 to Europe. 

Pretty sure it missed the West completely.

I don't understand that, why release the first 4 in english but not bother with the new one, which looks like the best in the series so far. I mean they released that shitty zombie spin off so they should release 5

Well, they all sold very poorly in the West and it's quite sad if they stop and don't release what is said to be the best one.

They probably sell more than enough in Japan to cover the cost of putting in an english translation... 



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veritaz on 18 May 2013

I love the people trying to downplay this amazing game, I mean really halo and fear has this AI? Laughable by far.



o_O.Q on 19 May 2013
Player1x3 said:
dane007 said:
I don't see anything jaw dropping about the combat. its very basic and very simple with no variety . To me it look s exactly like Uncharted 3 combat which was far from jaw dropping. There games like TLOU with batter combat


It's not about combat. It's the variety and animation 


...look at his post history and it should be clear what his agenda is

...i'm quite sure that when more footage is shown for beyond or infamous second son or whatever that we'll see his posts popping up in threads on those also



S.T.A.G.E. on 19 May 2013

After seeing this Naughty Dog is really going to have to up Uncharteds game with hand to hand combat and make it more brutal. Good lord.