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Is EA being unfair to Nintendo

Yes 144 48.65%
 
Maybe 37 12.50%
 
No 114 38.51%
 
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Mazty on 17 May 2013
Lyrikalstylez said:
Mazty said:


It's a wholly inflammatory post:

 

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Hey it's his opinion, this is an opinionated forum is it not?

if petty shit gets you angry with violent feelings maybe you should find another hobby

It's not petty shit - the guy is shit stirring and it's obvious as hell. Homophobia and racism are opinions, but still inflammatory, are they not? If he wants to make accusatory posts then he needs to back his points up or be branded a troll. 



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o_O.Q on 17 May 2013
Darc Requiem said:
Dodece said:
Apparently we aren't done rubbing the noses of Nintendo fans in this quite yet. The reality is that sometimes two wrongs do indeed make a right. Electronic Arts treating Nintendo owners with the same callous disregard that they themselves were treated to is actually a form of justice. Every supposed crime laid at the feet of Electronic Arts. Was done to them in kind by Nintendo fans this generation, and throughout the last. The specifics of why, or how really are irrelevant. The only thing that matters is as a community they deserve to have this happen to them.

You simply can't make commitments, and then fail to follow through on them. Nintendo fans talk a good game about why it is they don't support third parties, and they will hand out a list of things they want. However when a third party game dares to fill their order to the letter. They basically laugh at the developer for having taken them seriously in the first place. It is actually pretty damn sadistic of them, because a lot of the time the developer that took them seriously. Can't afford the flopped game they get as their reward.

Seriously take a look in a goddamn mirror. You treat third parties like shit, and when one of them stands up for itself, and decides to stop putting up with your nonsense. You guys start acting like your victims. Like you are entitled to treat anyone you want like shit. This wouldn't be happening if you had treated third parties better, and don't pretend like they didn't try. A lot of them did, but you couldn't have cared less. You love them when you can prop them up as window dressing for the console, but the moment it comes time to buy their games. Well you never promised you would do that.


I see you rolling out the same tired and flawed argument. Nintendo gamers should go out and buy inferior substandard ports because it wil mean better support in the future. Of course this ignores the fact that it isn't true. Third parties will continue to roll out "test" games until one of them fails and they can point to it as reason for the lack of support.

uh wasn't need for speed mw from EA touted by the developers and nintendo fans alike as being the best version of the game?

yet it sold extremely poorly

so imo to say that that only applies inferior ports doesn't tell the whole story

why continue putting in that effort if you get no return on your investment



sales2099 on 17 May 2013

Even when Nintendo makes a core first console 3rd party support is hard to come by. ouch



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Licence on 17 May 2013

Well, that is sad, but not the end of the world. There are many EA franchises that I enjoy, but at the end of the day, I can only play one game at a time, and there are many non-EA games that I enjoy too. If EA made this decision for any reason other than financial, then it is their loss.



Yakuzaice on 17 May 2013
morenoingrato said:

Such as? Dead Space: The On-Rails saturated spin-off? Mass Effect: Late Rip-Off? Need For Speed: Still late and expensive?
morenoingrato said:
RolStoppable said:

I see, you are still trying to start something.

But out of curiousity, which third party developers really tried?

Capcom. And sales showed it.

Are these meant to be joke posts?

Capcom's top sellers on the Wii were late ports and on-rails spin offs.  It wasn't until nearly three years after launch that it got MH3, and that is the only non port/rail shooter from Capcom that sold over 500k on the Wii.



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Michael-5 on 17 May 2013
Mazty said:
Michael-5 said:

To be honest, I don't believe this. I just don't.

They released Mass Effect 3 as a Wii U launch game, but won't make a Mass Effect Next for Wii U? They made FIFA for Wii U, and supported PS2 with FIFA games late into it's life, and have a FIFA planned for PS3/360 this fall, but not Wii U?

If this isn't bs, it won't last for long. Once Wii U picks up, EA will at least sell annual FIFA and Madden games for it again.


Why is it so hard to believe that a company doesn't want to develop for a console that has an incredibly small user base? By that logic alone it doesn't sound profitable to develop for when there is a user base of over 140 million out there on consoles devs are used to working with.

How well do sports games sell on the Wii U? Apparently, not very well:
http://kotaku.com/5968909/when-only-42-people-are-playing-madden-on-the-wii-u-its-not-a-sports-console

I like how you presume Wii U sales will pick up, just as the sun rises and sets. With all this news of 3rd party devs fleeing (No EA, no UE4, no Insomniac, no Avalache Studios etc) and the PS4/720 on the horizon, I now believe we may have a contender for the dreamcast on our hands. 

With your logic then EA shouldn't develop for PS4/Infinity either. Why is Wii U the only one out? Wii U's specs are more or less the same as PS3/360's, so it;s not like they are designing a new game for Wii U's capabilities. It's an easy port, where a PS4/Inf game is a full rebuild.

LOL, no Insomniac, how many MP games did they ever make?

Wii U is by far not a Dreamcast. Dreamcast was a low budget, 2-3 years premature, final hope for Sega after the internal mismanagments which had separate Sega studios develop both a 32x and a Saturn, at a cost. Sega also never established itslef as a gaming super power like Nintendo. No, even at its worst case, Wii U will sell better then a lot of other highly profitable home consoles. Remember, except for last year, Nintendo has always turned a profit, and it didn't always have such a handheld dominance.



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the2real4mafol on 17 May 2013

If EA are as influential as they used to be then the Wii U is completely screwed. Dreamcast got no games from EA and that got discontinued very fast. But i'm surprised FIFA 14 at least isn't coming to Wii U. FIFA normally comes to everything and anything



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Darc Requiem on 17 May 2013
the2real4mafol said:
If EA are as influential as they used to be then the Wii U is completely screwed. Dreamcast got no games from EA and that got discontinued very fast. But i'm surprised FIFA 14 at least isn't coming to Wii U. FIFA normally comes to everything and anything


People need to stop saying that EA had anything to do with the Dreamcast's demise. The Dreamcast failed because of Sega's massive debt. Their 2K Sports series was the worse thing that could have happened to EA. The NBA Live series never recovered. The exclusive NFL license is the only reason Madden still reigns supreme.



the2real4mafol on 18 May 2013
Darc Requiem said:
the2real4mafol said:
If EA are as influential as they used to be then the Wii U is completely screwed. Dreamcast got no games from EA and that got discontinued very fast. But i'm surprised FIFA 14 at least isn't coming to Wii U. FIFA normally comes to everything and anything


People need to stop saying that EA had anything to do with the Dreamcast's demise. The Dreamcast failed because of Sega's massive debt. Their 2K Sports series was the worse thing that could have happened to EA. The NBA Live series never recovered. The exclusive NFL license is the only reason Madden still rgigns supreme.

Yeah the Sega 32x and Saturn didn't help with them. But the Dreamcast needed all the support it could get too, EA could of done there bit



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Mazty on 18 May 2013
Michael-5 said:
Mazty said:

Why is it so hard to believe that a company doesn't want to develop for a console that has an incredibly small user base? By that logic alone it doesn't sound profitable to develop for when there is a user base of over 140 million out there on consoles devs are used to working with.

How well do sports games sell on the Wii U? Apparently, not very well:
http://kotaku.com/5968909/when-only-42-people-are-playing-madden-on-the-wii-u-its-not-a-sports-console

I like how you presume Wii U sales will pick up, just as the sun rises and sets. With all this news of 3rd party devs fleeing (No EA, no UE4, no Insomniac, no Avalache Studios etc) and the PS4/720 on the horizon, I now believe we may have a contender for the dreamcast on our hands. 

With your logic then EA shouldn't develop for PS4/Infinity either. Why is Wii U the only one out? Wii U's specs are more or less the same as PS3/360's, so it;s not like they are designing a new game for Wii U's capabilities. It's an easy port, where a PS4/Inf game is a full rebuild.

LOL, no Insomniac, how many MP games did they ever make?

Wii U is by far not a Dreamcast. Dreamcast was a low budget, 2-3 years premature, final hope for Sega after the internal mismanagments which had separate Sega studios develop both a 32x and a Saturn, at a cost. Sega also never established itslef as a gaming super power like Nintendo. No, even at its worst case, Wii U will sell better then a lot of other highly profitable home consoles. Remember, except for last year, Nintendo has always turned a profit, and it didn't always have such a handheld dominance.


No - as you admit the Wii U is not offering much more than the 360/PS3 in terms of specs, ergo why would someone buy it? The 360/PS3 market is near enough at the end of its cycle, therefore why would someone then go "hey, i'm not going to spend $300 on a console that is more or less the same as my existing console(s)!"?

The PS4 is many times more powerful than the PS3 and that opens up a market that wants to see dramatic improvements. Considering the postitive feed back about the PS4 demo graphics, this market seems to exist. And no it's not an easy port because of the Wii U's low clock speed which is considerably slower than the 360's and PS3s. And why port a game to a market that is so small? It literally isn't worth the time. 

Try to belittle Insomniac all you want, but the list of devs ignoring the Wii U is growing, not shrinking so put your personal preferences aside as they are making multiplat for the PS4/720.

Wii U is not selling and devs are abandoning it. At this rate, it'll be lucky to hit 10 million. Please state which consoles you believe the Wii U will sell better than as I'd like to quote this in the future as I do believe that if we are lucky it'll sell arounf the 20 mill mark lifetime.