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the_dengle on 16 May 2013

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Soundwave on 16 May 2013

I think the US market is basically going to be all about the PS4 vs 720 in the next five years with a side market of 3DS which is about 1/2 or 1/3 or what the DS used to do here.

Wii U and Vita will be irrelevant.

And even PS4/720 I think will be slow burn products with slow starts after the early adopters get theirs.



bananaking21 on 16 May 2013
Soundwave said:
bananaking21 said:
serves sony right with what is happening with the vita. their lack of support and games for it in the past 5 months is just reflected in the sales. i mean seriously, what games have come out for it in the usa? MLB, sly? soul sacrifice? seriously, what big game has been released for it? none. they simply have nothing for it until September


Sales this low indicate people don't want the hardware concept *period*.

No 15-30 year old consumer wants a Vita when they all have smartphones aside from a very, very small (but vocal) group of hardcore gamers that probably end up buying every game hardware.

And Nintendo is getting whatever kids still want a game handheld and even Nintendo is hurting on the handheld side in the West. 3DS is unable to build any real year over year momenteum whereas the DS was starting to explode in the US at this stage in its life cycle.

the problem isnt that. tell me what games have come out for the vita in 2013? are smartphones hurting handheld sales? certainly, but there is still a market, albiet a smaller one, for handhelds. yet sony's effort in 2013 is horrible



C-M-D on 16 May 2013
pezus said:

PSP this week in Europe > Vita's entire April in USA. Hot dang

Wait, what?! *Checks the current VGChartz weekly numbers*

I didn't even notice that the PSP numbers were adjusted in Europe! o.O



Soundwave on 16 May 2013
bananaking21 said:
Soundwave said:
bananaking21 said:
serves sony right with what is happening with the vita. their lack of support and games for it in the past 5 months is just reflected in the sales. i mean seriously, what games have come out for it in the usa? MLB, sly? soul sacrifice? seriously, what big game has been released for it? none. they simply have nothing for it until September


Sales this low indicate people don't want the hardware concept *period*.

No 15-30 year old consumer wants a Vita when they all have smartphones aside from a very, very small (but vocal) group of hardcore gamers that probably end up buying every game hardware.

And Nintendo is getting whatever kids still want a game handheld and even Nintendo is hurting on the handheld side in the West. 3DS is unable to build any real year over year momenteum whereas the DS was starting to explode in the US at this stage in its life cycle.

the problem isnt that. tell me what games have come out for the vita in 2013? are smartphones hurting handheld sales? certainly, but there is still a market, albiet a smaller one, for handhelds. yet sony's effort in 2013 is horrible


The 3DS has tons of games and is still selling poorly. Sony doesn't even have a chance.

No one wants $40 handheld games and $170-$250 pieces of handheld software.

Smartphones and tablets have brought this market to its knees. I *never* have seen anyone over the age of 14 carrying around a 3DS or Vita in public anywhere, and I see literally hundreds and hundreds of tablets/phones in use for gaming at airports and the like when I travel.



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MANUELF on 16 May 2013

Both the vita and the wiiu are dead!!!
At least I tried Nintendo, I bought a WiiU in April :(



JGarret on 16 May 2013

Holy shit at the Wii U!

Even worse than the negative record in January :(



Soundwave on 16 May 2013

Vita is mind bogglingly bad. When did the Dreamcast first dip under 20k for a month in North America?

Is the Vita quite possibly the worst selling hardware platform from the big companies (Nintendo/Sony/MS/Sega) since the Virtual Boy over here?



Yakuzaice on 16 May 2013
pezus said:
This month could be stealth adjustment month for NPD. Wasn't last month unusually high?

A big drop from March to April is pretty normal.

Fun fact, best case scenario 460k hardware was sold (not counting DS and PSP) this month.

April
2007: DS 471k
2008: Wii 714k
2009: DS 1040k
2010: DS 441k
2011: DS 357k



JGarret on 16 May 2013
Soundwave said:

I think the US market is basically going to be all about the PS4 vs 720 in the next five years with a side market of 3DS which is about 1/2 or 1/3 or what the DS used to do here.

Wii U and Vita will be irrelevant.

And even PS4/720 I think will be slow burn products with slow starts after the early adopters get theirs.

The 8th generation will probably be known for its big market contraction.