and is the handling as good then? or is the weight not 100% balanced? that alone would be a reason for me to buy shield if i would care about the android stuff. i mean, if i would care about it, why should i use my smartphone and a controller when i can buy this? if i have enough money, i will take this. it also doesn't use my smartphone battery then and i could still not stream my pc games with my android phone.

if it's possible that someone can surf on the internet and someone else can play the games with that pc with shield it would be really nice. let your wife surf and you play the game with shield.

this is made for this purpose, everything else is just "put this and that together and it also works anyhow"

i don't think shield will sell very much but like i said in the other post, we don't know how much it has to sell and even a "small" amount could be enough. something the 3ds or vita can't live with.

Your counterpoint raises two questions in my mind:

1. How the hell are the sputtering sales of this device — that you and I already know is niche, at best — going to inspire the confidence of OEMs and developers? Your comparison to Surface isn't doing any favours, as PC OEMs seem pretty upset with Windows 8/RT right now.

2. As a consumer, why should I consider subsidizing what is effectively a $350 Tegra ad? A consumer product is supposed to be courting me, not potential business partners.

If you're right, and NVIDIA's basically selling dev kits, they should probably make that clear so they aren't messing with the expectations of consumers. Otherwise, they look like they're deliberately exploiting consumers to get to their real clients, OEMs, rather than simply being clueless about what consumers actually want. NVIDIA needs to decide who their real customer is.

350$...LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

If this thing was $100 I would be interested but $350 is quite ridiculous for what it is.

I don't think it will sell much. But it is gamings future. And Sony is in the best position to take advantage of it. They could take a very big bite out of Apple.(pun intended).

The thing is, one of the selling points is that you can stream PC games to it (with a high end GPU),

But with the PS4 allowing most games to stream to the vita once launched and the ps4 having most PC games,

This has to be a device simply to show off tegra 4 and nothing more really as it is hardly attractive to most consumers.

Sounds like some CEO's kid pet project.

$350? Ouch!

nah, actually expecting a device like this to be thrown at you for $100 is pretty ridiculous

Lol I do not expect it to be 100$, that is how much I value it. I value PS2s as 20$ machines nowadays but they still sell for 120$. If Wii U was 200$ I think I would buy it, but 350$ for the good version is ridiculous to me.