Agreed, Japan never cared for the ¥39,980 price point. And its even worse now that they decided to hike the price in Japan compared to other countries to ¥44,980.

While the Slim remains on par with other countries.

It was a fun ride, guys!

You are a fun ride, also BraLod, thanks for continuing to do persona comparisons, it is one of the few comparisons on here that actually gives you hope for the franchise's growth, unlike Tales, which did poorly. 

I was not confusing the pro, maybe the user I was responding to was? I stated they are few months apart and will have little effect on each other. 

I do think Slim will have positive effect, that is why my prediction is now 325,000-350.000 for Persona 5 total. 

I don't know if I would still say that Tales of Berseria did poorly now that we've seen much better legs than Zestiria. It's going to end up around the same LTD as Zestiria (depending on digital sales) which did decent.

I think both continue the downward decline of the franchise, instead of the uptick necessary. I was not really impressed with Zestiria sales that much either mind you.  I do agree second week was better, which was impressive for Tales franchise, but still a lot of room to make up for, I think it was 430,000 total that is Tales of Zestiria. 

I'm personally impressed it hasn't declined a lot more. I think they've been playing it safe for way too long now so it's only normal not to experience a growth because there would no reason for one.

I agree 100% here, wish they would get their heads out of their asses, and do something. 

You are right Beastros San.  

BEASTERIA has done well.  It's stopped the decline of the franchise. Decent sales and it's great to see! 

You are now making stuff out of your ass.

"if you actually follow the thread"

Let me say, if YOU actually followed the thread you would know I actually follow this thread.

23 August 2016

23 August 2016

And last but not least, do you know I'm the one doing the Persona 5 vs MGSV comparison?

Yes comparison are very rarely fair but still some comparisons are more adequate than others. You don't have to tell me about PS2 ratios or act like I don't know. Anyone could have said a year ago that P4 vs P5 comparison was totally meaningless from sales perspective, the only conclusion you get from that comparison is that the sales ratios are not comparable, you do not get any sort of accuracy if you try to predict P5 sales looking at P4 COMG points. That's the only thing you need to "factor", going any further is pointless.

Why the hell you bring other peoples estimates into the discussion. Yes, I know pretty much everyone predicts P5 will sell better than P4 but that has nothing to do with me saying, P5 comparisons are now meaningless. From the moment the bundle was announced, it was clear the sales ratio will change completely and we don't have any comparison that would be even remotely fair. MGSV had the bundle but the situation is still completely different now, it just isn't comparable. There is a stark difference with regular bundles and a new cheaper console model releasing and this time with a highly anticipated P5.

You talk about factors and equations and then proceed to post these half-assed conclusions full of holes, to me your deductions seem like childs play.

Here it is, my comparison which I guess I'm not consciously posting. Must be a split persona.