The thing is there is more people that (willingly and without "being forced to replace a broken console") bought 1 or 2 DS's than there is PS2 owners because I dont know a single person that still has a phat PS2 because all of the phats I ever saw in my entire life died (and I know like 45 or so people that had a Phat and now just have a slim because the phat died even my sisters phat died so did my PS2)

On the other hand I dont know a single person who had a Slim die. And the slim came out when the Phat already hit like 90-100 million units.

And when you think how big the percentage of broken Phats on ebay is and that 100% of all the people I know that had a phat "were forced" to buy a slim then its actually more than FAIR to assume that 20 million PS2s are replacements.


So there might be more PS2s but breaking certainly disqualifies for being KING. (same reason why PS3 already beat the 360 in terms of "meaningful" sales)

Its somewhat like the "shipped vs sold" difference

And lets start another fanboy war thread... oh well..


I´m not so sure that PS2 is the best sold console ever.
We all know that both PS2 and DS are undertracked, both still sell a lot in developing countries in Asia and South America, just because they´re cheap and many countries on those regions don´t have a developed videogame market, they most consume imported devices and products.

What the official numbers for each console ? Can anyone tell, without speculations or suppositions ?

cookingyourmama said: Jumpin said: Turkish said: The DS never reached 155.1M the PS2 did through march 2012, right now PS2 is likely around 157-158M PS2 didn't sell that many either. PS2 only sold 153.68, and DS has sold higher at 154.55. Proof: http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/ Have you not read any of this thread or any other threads on this forum about PS2 & DS sales? It is a FACT that Vgchartz numbers are wrong for the PS2 & DS, and this is a thread discussing what the REAL numbers are. The PS2 has sold more than the DS, and the DS is never likely to over take it.

So... what are the REAL numbers ?

So far, we only have speculation here. Is there any other tool to track REAL numbers besides Vgchartz.

All we know is that PS2 sold at least 153,68 million and Ds sold 154.55 million, AT LEAST. Is there any OFFICIAL statement that proves they sold more than that ?

Or are we discussing empty numbers ?

ps2 sell 200m , and here is why. because heave 20 year lifetime

gentii said: ps2 sell 200m , and here is why. because heave 20 year lifetime

"the first console sold in every corner of the world"

'I love ps2 it make me happy alltime'

~some thai guy on neoseeker forums

Ps2 is the true Juggernaut of gaming, no console will ever again achieve what the Ps2 has.

Long live the King.

Jumpin said: Turkish said: The DS never reached 155.1M the PS2 did through march 2012, right now PS2 is likely around 157-158M PS2 didn't sell that many either. PS2 only sold 153.68, and DS has sold higher at 154.55. Proof: http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

Please don't waste my time. I'm talking about official shipment numbers, not vgc.

JazzB1987 said: The thing is there is more people that (willingly and without "being forced to replace a broken console") bought 1 or 2 DS's than there is PS2 owners because I dont know a single person that still has a phat PS2 because all of the phats I ever saw in my entire life died (and I know like 45 or so people that had a Phat and now just have a slim because the phat died even my sisters phat died so did my PS2) On the other hand I dont know a single person who had a Slim die. And the slim came out when the Phat already hit like 90-100 million units. And when you think how big the percentage of broken Phats on ebay is and that 100% of all the people I know that had a phat "were forced" to buy a slim then its actually more than FAIR to assume that 20 million PS2s are replacements. So there might be more PS2s but breaking certainly disqualifies for being KING. (same reason why PS3 already beat the 360 in terms of "meaningful" sales) Its somewhat like the "shipped vs sold" difference

My phat Ps2 still works? I even still swap magic on it which probably should have killed it by now, shes over ten years old and still hasn't missed a beat.

I sense Bs. 

Edit: Oh and Forgot to add my ds dead, Ill even make a youtube video about it if you dont believe me ;P

Rogerioandrade said: cookingyourmama said: Jumpin said: Turkish said: The DS never reached 155.1M the PS2 did through march 2012, right now PS2 is likely around 157-158M PS2 didn't sell that many either. PS2 only sold 153.68, and DS has sold higher at 154.55. Proof: http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/ Have you not read any of this thread or any other threads on this forum about PS2 & DS sales? It is a FACT that Vgchartz numbers are wrong for the PS2 & DS, and this is a thread discussing what the REAL numbers are. The PS2 has sold more than the DS, and the DS is never likely to over take it. So... what are the REAL numbers ? So far, we only have speculation here. Is there any other tool to track REAL numbers besides Vgchartz. All we know is that PS2 sold at least 153,68 million and Ds sold 154.55 million, AT LEAST. Is there any OFFICIAL statement that proves they sold more than that ? Or are we discussing empty numbers ?

If you can't read through earnings results of nintendo and sony, don't bother. The latest ps2 number is from march 31 2012, 155.1M shipped, since then its lumped together with PS3. DS never even reached that number. VGC stopped tracking PS2 ages ago.

Is there anyhthing else you don't understand?