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AbbathTheGrim said:
mii-gamer said:
i will buy nintendo's version because we all know who the better developer is

erm, what? The game is being made by Precursor Games, so if you are implying that you will take Nintendo's version because Nintendo will be in charge of the WiiU version, it isn't like that. Precursor Games will make both versions and they are open to make later versions for other platforms as well.


He was referring to the topic of the thread. If Shadow of the Eternals and Eternal Darkness 2 BOTH existed, he would by the one made by Nintendo (ED2)

Personally, I don't see that happening as Nintendo doesn't just hand out dev kits to people who say, "I want to make a game." According to the screen grab that was taken, the project already has $10k funded, which would more than account for a Wii U dev kit, probably 2. Since it is a planned Wii U release, Dyack had to get confirmed as a Wii U developer, so Nintendo knows this exists and likely wouldn't put out a product that would cannibalize the bejeesus out of its sales. They probably renewed the copyright so there wouldn't be any need for some weird legal dispute in the future.

If this doesn't get the funding it needs, I would love Nintendo to pull a Bayonetta 2 and save the project...even if by only funding what is left and getting an exclusive Roivas cameo or something. 



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AbbathTheGrim said:
Kaizar said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
mii-gamer said:
i will buy nintendo's version because we all know who the better developer is

erm, what? The game is being made by Precursor Games, so if you are implying that you will take Nintendo's version because Nintendo will be in charge of the WiiU version, it isn't like that. Precursor Games will make both versions and they are open to make later versions for other platforms as well.


Have you played?

Batman Arkham City Armored Edition

Mass Effect 3 Special Edition

The Amazing Spider Man Ultimate Edition

Lego Batman 2 definitive version

Why are you asking that? What does that have to do with this thread and conversation?

Because those Wii U version of those games are so way much better then the PC/PS3/360 version that it makes the PC/360/PS3 version seem so boring.

Thats more then enough proof that the Nintendo version will be better.

Another example is DarkSiders 2 which is more better on the Wii U then the PC by far.



RicardJulianti said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
mii-gamer said:
i will buy nintendo's version because we all know who the better developer is

erm, what? The game is being made by Precursor Games, so if you are implying that you will take Nintendo's version because Nintendo will be in charge of the WiiU version, it isn't like that. Precursor Games will make both versions and they are open to make later versions for other platforms as well.


He was referring to the topic of the thread. If Shadow of the Eternals and Eternal Darkness 2 BOTH existed, he would by the one made by Nintendo (ED2)

That doesn't make sense, Nintendo as developer doesn;t have or never had any involvement in the development of the first game. The game was actually under the hands of Dyack who produced, directed and co-wrote the game. Silicon Knights now with the layoffs and possible demise before the dispute against Epic Games will now be a shadow of its former self. There isn't much info on how Precursor Games is conformed, at least I couldn't find anything. I wouldn't be surprised if PG actually ends up picking some people from Silicon, but regardless, with Dyack in charge, this sequel could pretty much be the closest thing fans could get to a true successor of the first game.

There is no reason to believe Nintendo is bound to make an ED game by themselves, especially as developers. Best case scenario they would have delegated that to an independent studio and what studio would best the one with a person in charge that actually wrote, directed and produced the first one?



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

Kaizar said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
Kaizar said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
mii-gamer said:
i will buy nintendo's version because we all know who the better developer is

erm, what? The game is being made by Precursor Games, so if you are implying that you will take Nintendo's version because Nintendo will be in charge of the WiiU version, it isn't like that. Precursor Games will make both versions and they are open to make later versions for other platforms as well.


Have you played?

Batman Arkham City Armored Edition

Mass Effect 3 Special Edition

The Amazing Spider Man Ultimate Edition

Lego Batman 2 definitive version

Why are you asking that? What does that have to do with this thread and conversation?

Because those Wii U version of those games are so way much better then the PC/PS3/360 version that it makes the PC/360/PS3 version seem so boring.

Thats more then enough proof that the Nintendo version will be better.

Another example is DarkSiders 2 which is more better on the Wii U then the PC by far.

None of those versions are better than the PC counterparts. The only thing that those versions have is additional content and that content's worth is marginal. What is the awesome content that those versions have that renders the other versions boring? Watching the controller pad?

Nothing assures Nintendo's version will be better, especially when compared to PC which has almost limitless resources. And if versions of this game release for PS4 and NextBox they will be way more superior in presentation because of how underpowered the WiiU is compared to the other systems. Unless the Nextbox is on the level of the WiiU (highly unlikely) or if they don't use any benefits from the powers of the next consoles from Sony and Micro and they make a straight port for them.

EDIT: And, Nintendo got additional content for receiving an old port of a game that gamers had play for over a year already. In which case, the next generation consoles: NextBox and PS4 are the ones to receive the additional content for getting the late versions if such a thing happens following the examples you provided.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

jes would by the one made by Nintendo (ED2)



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but thank you Dyack to bring a spiritual successor to Eternal Darkness titled .

Day ONE



AbbathTheGrim said:

That doesn't make sense, Nintendo as developer doesn;t have or never had any involvement in the development of the first game. The game was actually under the hands of Dyack who produced, directed and co-wrote the game. Silicon Knights now with the layoffs and possible demise before the dispute against Epic Games will now be a shadow of its former self. There isn't much info on how Precursor Games is conformed, at least I couldn't find anything. I wouldn't be surprised if PG actually ends up picking some people from Silicon, but regardless, with Dyack in charge, this sequel could pretty much be the closest thing fans could get to a true successor of the first game.

There is no reason to believe Nintendo is bound to make an ED game by themselves, especially as developers. Best case scenario they would have delegated that to an independent studio and what studio would best the one with a person in charge that actually wrote, directed and produced the first one?


Yes it does. Nintendo owns the copyright on Eternal Darkness, and sanity effects apparently but that is such a broad term it would be hard to enforce.  He was speaking in the hypothetical situation presented by the OP that IF Nintendo made Eternal Darkness 2, and IF Shadow of the Eternals reaches its funding....and both came out around the same time....he would buy Eternal Darkness 2 over Shadow of the Eternals.

The specific details of how they would get it does don't matter as it is a hypothetical situation that likely isn't happening considering he had to be approved as a Wii U developer. Since it has a planned Wii U release (and not, we'll add it if it reaches such and such stretch goal) they likely already have a dev kit, so Nintendo knows it exists and likely wouldn't allow it if they were making ED2.



AbbathTheGrim said:
Kaizar said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
Kaizar said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
mii-gamer said:
i will buy nintendo's version because we all know who the better developer is

erm, what? The game is being made by Precursor Games, so if you are implying that you will take Nintendo's version because Nintendo will be in charge of the WiiU version, it isn't like that. Precursor Games will make both versions and they are open to make later versions for other platforms as well.


Have you played?

Batman Arkham City Armored Edition

Mass Effect 3 Special Edition

The Amazing Spider Man Ultimate Edition

Lego Batman 2 definitive version

Why are you asking that? What does that have to do with this thread and conversation?

Because those Wii U version of those games are so way much better then the PC/PS3/360 version that it makes the PC/360/PS3 version seem so boring.

Thats more then enough proof that the Nintendo version will be better.

Another example is DarkSiders 2 which is more better on the Wii U then the PC by far.

None of those versions are better than the PC counterparts. The only thing that those versions have is additional content and that content's worth is marginal. What is the awesome content that those versions have that renders the other versions boring? Watching the controller pad?

Nothing assures Nintendo's version will be better, especially when compared to PC which has almost limitless resources. And if versions of this game release for PS4 and NextBox they will be way more superior in presentation because of how underpowered the WiiU is compared to the other systems. Unless the Nextbox is on the level of the WiiU (highly unlikely) or if they don't use any benefits from the powers of the next consoles from Sony and Micro and they make a straight port for them.

EDIT: And, Nintendo got additional content for receiving an old port of a game that gamers had play for over a year already. In which case, the next generation consoles: NextBox and PS4 are the ones to receive the additional content for getting the late versions if such a thing happens following the examples you provided.


The PC/PS3/360 versions are just so boring after you play those games on the Wii U like Batman Arkham City, because the Wii U version of those games are way so much more fun.



ummmmmm. wow. anyway, I just don't see this ending well. Trademarks, funding, copyrights. I may (and hope) i'm wrong, but this already seems like a mess. that being said, I hope for the best and hope that this games is made, published and rocks. If so it would be a huge selling point for me to by a wii-u as eternal darkness was one of my favorite games, and one of the most innovative games of it's time.



Kaizar said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
Kaizar said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
Kaizar said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
mii-gamer said:
i will buy nintendo's version because we all know who the better developer is

erm, what? The game is being made by Precursor Games, so if you are implying that you will take Nintendo's version because Nintendo will be in charge of the WiiU version, it isn't like that. Precursor Games will make both versions and they are open to make later versions for other platforms as well.


Have you played?

Batman Arkham City Armored Edition

Mass Effect 3 Special Edition

The Amazing Spider Man Ultimate Edition

Lego Batman 2 definitive version

Why are you asking that? What does that have to do with this thread and conversation?

Because those Wii U version of those games are so way much better then the PC/PS3/360 version that it makes the PC/360/PS3 version seem so boring.

Thats more then enough proof that the Nintendo version will be better.

Another example is DarkSiders 2 which is more better on the Wii U then the PC by far.

None of those versions are better than the PC counterparts. The only thing that those versions have is additional content and that content's worth is marginal. What is the awesome content that those versions have that renders the other versions boring? Watching the controller pad?

Nothing assures Nintendo's version will be better, especially when compared to PC which has almost limitless resources. And if versions of this game release for PS4 and NextBox they will be way more superior in presentation because of how underpowered the WiiU is compared to the other systems. Unless the Nextbox is on the level of the WiiU (highly unlikely) or if they don't use any benefits from the powers of the next consoles from Sony and Micro and they make a straight port for them.

EDIT: And, Nintendo got additional content for receiving an old port of a game that gamers had play for over a year already. In which case, the next generation consoles: NextBox and PS4 are the ones to receive the additional content for getting the late versions if such a thing happens following the examples you provided.


The PC/PS3/360 versions are just so boring after you play those games on the Wii U like Batman Arkham City, because the Wii U version of those games are way so much more fun.

But what is so much better about them



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