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Forums - Nintendo - Madden a NO GO for Wii U this year. EA reaffirms it still has a "Strong Partnership" with Nintendo.

JGarret on 02 May 2013

What about FIFA, is it still planned for the Wii U?

Personally, I don´t care about sports games, but I don´t know the potential damage the lack of a Madden and/or FIFA could cause to a Nintendo system.



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Mr Khan on 02 May 2013
Train wreck said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Train wreck said:
superchunk said:
There was a time EA ignored Nintendo back in NES/SNES days... meh Nintendo will be fine. EA will come around in 2014 after Wii U is well over 10m sold and rest of next-gen is less than 1/2 that.

Im sure in 2014 the combined total of the PS4 and next xbox will be that or greater than the Wii U, plus they still have the PS360 to fall back on...nice try though


he thinks nintendo is going to sell over 7 mil wii u in the next 8 months. as of right now they are in line tosell another 500k in the next 4 months. i think its impossible to reach ten mil. i think nintendo is scaling back production and retailers will be conservative with their orders. superchunk is banking on big games to launch the wii u. that might happen but if it does i can see nintendo running into shortages and not keeping up with demand instead of massive sale (which needs to be the case to reach 10mil). 

He also think there was a time when EA ignored Nintendo when you have games like desert strike which was arguably one of the top games to be released on the SNES

Only because investors went apeshit and Trip Hawkins was forced out.



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Train wreck on 02 May 2013
Mr Khan said:
Train wreck said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Train wreck said:
superchunk said:
There was a time EA ignored Nintendo back in NES/SNES days... meh Nintendo will be fine. EA will come around in 2014 after Wii U is well over 10m sold and rest of next-gen is less than 1/2 that.

Im sure in 2014 the combined total of the PS4 and next xbox will be that or greater than the Wii U, plus they still have the PS360 to fall back on...nice try though


he thinks nintendo is going to sell over 7 mil wii u in the next 8 months. as of right now they are in line tosell another 500k in the next 4 months. i think its impossible to reach ten mil. i think nintendo is scaling back production and retailers will be conservative with their orders. superchunk is banking on big games to launch the wii u. that might happen but if it does i can see nintendo running into shortages and not keeping up with demand instead of massive sale (which needs to be the case to reach 10mil). 

He also think there was a time when EA ignored Nintendo when you have games like desert strike which was arguably one of the top games to be released on the SNES

Only because investors went apeshit and Trip Hawkins was forced out.

Outside a couple of genesis and PC centric games, EA supported the SNES the same as other consoles at the time.  The majority of its highest sellers were on the platform including the strike games, nba Live, NHL and Madden.  Dont know how thats ignoring a system.



cunger on 02 May 2013

It's probably for the better for them to wait until next year. There aren't that many Wiiu's out in the wild yet so the experience would suffer. I am one of the poor souls who bought the Wiiu launch day Madden. It's a great game but you can almost never find a match online. Better than have people buy it and get a poor experience it is better for them to wait until the Wiiu has had the upcoming Christmas with the Pikmin, Mario, Zelda games ect. By next summer fall the Wiiu will have enough of an audience to support a solid Madden experience.



superchunk on 02 May 2013
Train wreck said:

...and lets back out all the important stuff you conveniently left out, such as the cost of maintaining servers so people can play online, the huge licensing and royality fees that have to be paid to the NFL


All of which is actually dividied up among all the many, many ports of the game paid 10 fold by just the PS360 versions...



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JGarret on 02 May 2013

I´m surprised this thread hasn´t reached 100 posts by now.



outlawauron on 02 May 2013

Not sure how they can get around their NFL contract with this.....



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Arcturus on 02 May 2013
superchunk said:
Arcturus said:
Not sure why this comes as a shock to people. The previous version sold only 30,000 copies. At the moment, it's just not worth EA's time and resources to develop and release the next version on the Wii U.

30k on a rushed port that didn't even include the latest technology they put into Madden. (i.e a port of the previous years game)

Let's low ball it and say EA makes $25 per game sold, as it did retail for $60.

That's $750,000 on a crappy late port. I'm sure they made money on it.

There is no way they expected much more considering it was a crappy port that was advetised to be missing key upgrades. I mean not only was it luanched months after it came out on PS360, but it was basically the previous years game which means it was really over a year late.

$750,000 is not a lot of money, and I'd be surprised if they made any money on it.

Another factor to consider is the opportunity cost associated with deciding whether to develop the next Madden game for Wii U. EA has probably determined that their Madden Wii U resources can be assigned to other projects that have the potential to be more profitable for the company.



Kresnik on 02 May 2013

Quelle surprise.

I actually think this says more about EA's situation. They aren't doing so hot at the moment, and a port of a game like this onto a system which - no two ways around it - is doing horribly at the moment, just isn't really a viable option.

I doubt they made their money back from their last port, actually. Again, using Ubisoft's $1.2 million figure and Barozi's pie chart, ~ 45k is break even point for a Wii-U port sold at $60. And you don't really want to be breaking even if you can make better profit using that manpower elsewhere (not on new Army of Two games, though).  Losing money on it is... well, yeah.

Looks like no Vita version either. It sold much better, but still not well enough to be a decent enough option by the looks of it.  



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snowdog on 02 May 2013

Strong partnership my arse lol. FIFA 13 and the last Madden were gimped, no Tiger Woods last year and most likely this year too, they killed the (late!) launch of Mass Effect 3 by releasing the Mass Effect Trilogy on the PS3 and 360 and now no Madden and most likely no FIFA this year either.

Christ on a fucking bike, EA, just be honest...you've pretty much severed all support for Nintendo consoles.

I think it's about time one of these gaming journalists interviewed someone high up at EA and REALLY press them on what the problem is. Don't let them leave the interview until you get a proper answer lol.

Probably Origin, but I reckon Nintendo patenting the use of the remote and GamePad for golf games may have something to do with it too.