oniyide said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Grandia said:
oniyide said:
Grandia said:
Cobretti2 said:
Grandia said:
tontus said:
DaRev said:
pezus said:
He fails to mention the consoles that most people WiiU is underpowered compared to. WiiU being underpowered compared to PS4 and most likely Nextbox isn't a misunderstanding, it's fact. |
Iwata doesn't fail to do anything, because what he's saying is that you can develop games on the WiiU (yeah it's that simple). He is not comparing the WiiU to any other console - you might want or expect him to to that, but he is not. For example, NBA 2K 14 will come out eventually for all consooles, including the WiiU, so the console is not underpowered. Similarly, the next Modern Warfare and other 3rd party games (Watch Dogs) should be on the WiiU as well, so the console is not underpowered.
What I think Iwata is saying as well is that there is this a seed of crazy thinking being cultivated by people like Epic and Sony and MS, that games have to look a certain way to be a game - this is the misunderstanding Iwata is talking about. I assume the way he plans to change this misundertsnading to make sucessful games on the WiiU (from the second half 2013), and once developers see that their games can sell well on WiiU, regardless of how they look, they will understand that the WiiU is not underpowered.
|
The only reason games like the next CoD, NBA & Watch Dogs are coming to the Wii U is because they're coming to the PS360, if they were made for the PS4/Xbox Infinite then you can be sure that they wouldn't come to the Wii U, why would developers sacrifice quality/increase budgets just to release on the Wii U when the sales won't justifiy those efforts? In a few years when multiplatform games aren't being made for the PS360 then they'll also stop coming for the Wii U too.
And expecting and wanting significantly more advanced graphics from next generation consoles is not crazy thinking, it's exactly what the vast majority of people expect and want from new consoles. Also more power can help make the gameplay, load-times, & AI etc, better too. Iwata making a successful Nintendo game isn't going to encourage developers to make games for the Wii U anymore than successful Nintendo games encouraged developers to make their games for the Wii. There is no misunderstanding, developers know that they will make more money developing for PS4, Xbox Infinite & PC without having to sacrifice quality for the underpowered Wii U which wouldn't be worth it anyway as only Nintendo exclusives sell well on Nintendo consoles.
|
There is no big leap in graphics this time, games on PS4 will not look significantly better than on PS 3 or WiiU. There is no possibility for much better looking games, look at games like Uncharted 3 or Gears of War 3 it looks almsot as good as the reality it is not that far away from photo-realistic. How you want to make games that look better than the reality?
All games which will come out for the next generation consoles will be possible with only minor downgrades on the wii u too, the only question is if developers will see enaugh potential to sell games on the wiiu. It has to pay of for them to releas downports for wiiu.
|
we are no were NEAR reality. There was some article about a week or two ago that said you need about 2PETAFLOPS (or some othe rnumber cant remember) to acheive this. It equates to 2000 gtx690 cards (so whatever the TFLOPS on this card are)
|
But where is the benefit of going further to photo-realistic graphics if no one will notice a real difference to the graphics like they are now already in Ps3, Wiiu games? If you play Uncharted 3 it already looks like photo-realistic, if you play gears of War it looks like photo-realistic, parts of this games look already even better than the reality because they use brighter colors than reality do, no one except for some graphics fetishists will notice improvements to this graphics especially when you play the game the focus is not only on the graphics.
So why someone should invest millions of dollars in development if no one will notice a real difference?
|
are you kidding? what they have shown from PS4 is already NOTICEABLE different than what is on PS3. Hell you can notice the difference between a game running on a high end PC than its console counterpart. (Bioshock Inifinte comes to mind)
|
All I saw from Ps 4 could also run on a PS3, Killzone 4 look almost identical to Killzone 2 and 3, there is no space for big improvements anymore. Sure mega nerds who count every pixel separate will see improvements but for almost every other gamer out there there is no difference if you play crysis 3 on PS3 or with the best possible settings on a high end PC. It is not worth wasting money for such minor graphic improvements in my opinion.
|
This is clearly a lie. PS4 was running KZ4 in real time playable what is above Killzone 2 and 3's cinematic graphics by multiples. What a joke of a response.
|
i gave him the benefit of the doubt by saying he needed his eyes checked out. IMHO some of these arguments seem to be just people trying to defend NINTY anyway the can, but his argument doesnt make alot of sense becasue Wii U is truly just a system with minor graphical improvements. So most people wont buy Wii U. And its not even about the graphics, been having the same discussion for years in terms wiht the Wii, hardware power leads to more effects, better AI, better everything really, graphics are just one thing.
|
