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S.T.A.G.E. on 26 April 2013
maxnyc said:
Sessler is just wrong here. If Nintendo makes news during a Nintendo-Direct, then major websites & blogs will cover it, & non-nintendo users will eventually hear it / see it. Whether it's e3 or n-direct, news is news, & i don't imagine that kotaku or ign will ignore it because it's a n-direct & not e3. In fact, revealing something at e3 is more likely to be lost in the mass, whereas a n-direct might be the major news for that random day or week.


Nintendo has had Nintendo directs before and its never been massively huge. Sony has broken more ground than Nintendo has with more hits on Youtube and they dont even have press conferences.



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Blacksaber on 26 April 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Otakumegane said:
Uh...would Sony and MS gamers care about Nintendo's press conference in the 1st place?

I mean they'll watch it sure, but will they go and buy a console for it?


I was damn close to buying a Wii after Nintendos 2010 conference. E3 is where the best show off what they've got. If you go off thinking everyone is ignorant to Nintendo or not trying to keep an open mind you'll have a bad outlook everytime. The big three are the heart and soul of E3 and the third parties are the royal subjects. When one steps down panic will occur because a lot is expected from all of them.


But they will still be there doing everything as every year before with new announcements, videos and demos only thing different is them just breaking the conferences up so each group gets the info they need...



Former something....

S.T.A.G.E. on 26 April 2013
theprof00 said:
Proclus said:
While it is slightly sad and alarming, I'm just going to pretend they're doing it because E3 presence is going to be on MS ans Sony anyway.

I agree, it seems as if anything they're going to say is just going to get drowned out by two major console release launch games.

Better to just wait it out and get your own media attention, imo.

I agree as well. I think Nintendo is stepping out of the war between Microsoft and Sony because its going to be huge. Sony has already shown so much but yet so little and it was very impressive and their truer guns havent even been shown yet and wont be shown until E3. Microsoft is going to becoming in with heavy entertainment features and their new IP's that their couple of new studios have been working on. This is definitely going to be something to see.



S.T.A.G.E. on 26 April 2013
Blacksaber said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Otakumegane said:
Uh...would Sony and MS gamers care about Nintendo's press conference in the 1st place?

I mean they'll watch it sure, but will they go and buy a console for it?


I was damn close to buying a Wii after Nintendos 2010 conference. E3 is where the best show off what they've got. If you go off thinking everyone is ignorant to Nintendo or not trying to keep an open mind you'll have a bad outlook everytime. The big three are the heart and soul of E3 and the third parties are the royal subjects. When one steps down panic will occur because a lot is expected from all of them.


But they will still be there doing everything as every year before with new announcements, videos and demos only thing different is them just breaking the conferences up so each group gets the info they need...


No offense, but I dont trust anything Iwata does with Nintendo. When I was researching Nintendo I realized the time I started backpeddling from Nintendo was when he started working there and even worse when he became the president. Nintendo can break it up  into as many press conferences as they want, but they will be small conferences with their adoring core and not the casuals that Nintendo became so in love with in 2006.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD50D631C1566B340

Look at the hits on those. Is that what you call impressive? Those are all of their Nintendo Directs.

Look how many people looked at this trailer thinking the PS4 was imminent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyFmxNLH0YA

Look at what happens when Sony shows a quick clip of the highlights of the press conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7QhUL8NUK4&list=PLol_ykYs3OQ65y4avMdbMk_k96z3lMt6W&index=10

Record numbers for Sony.

5x Nintendos current Youtube subscribers. 

Double their views in millions.



Ouroboros24 on 26 April 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Ouroboros24 said:
Cj2i3 said:
I'm sure Nintendo has something big to show or at least something kind of big. It could be a possibility they don't want to share the spotlight with Sony and Microsoft since all eyes will be on the two new consoles. So they would rather hold a separate conference to show off games, but it is also possible that they have nothing to show they perhaps could be a year away from releasing those big name games.

I want to add that there is no actual spotlight for them to share, metaphorically and literally.  With the videogame industry, it like the saying goes, "the cream always rises to the top."  Whatever the format they so choose, or what ever is the biggest announcements, the flame from either Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft will spread.  As videogame enthusiasts, we will find out the biggest news from all 3 companies. 

Yes, but Nintendo will suffer from lack of exposure and only gamers will know where to go and thats a minority of people. Its not the group of people Nintendo is looking for. 

That's not necessarily true.  Nintendo's exposure will carry as much as the importance they deliver.  The same with Sony and Microsoft.  Take for instance Nintendo's latest ND.  We hear mostly about the Legend of Zelda LTTP sequel and Earthbound translation.  The rest like Mario Golf, a lesser game, will have less exposure.  Same with Mario and Donkey game, which is also a lesser francise than Zelda and the recent Earthbound by way of Smash bros. Ness character. 

As for a vast marjority of people getting the information, E3 is widely praised as the epicenter of videogame information, but that information is not regularly carried out to mainstream audience.  Speak to people not in the know about E3 and a good amount of them will not know what it is.  I would go so far as to say that most people get their gaming news from the commercials they see for more recent games.  When someone like you or I look for news on gaming, we go to sites like this, other people who really arn't so interested, will wait until some flashy commercial comes along and that's when they'll start informing themselves.  Maybe if E3 was televised in a network like NBC or Fox, then it'd be useful as advertisment tool.  All the info we get come from committed sites like vgcharts or IGN.  We don't go to E3.com and look at the latest gaming news. 

Take for instance the poplarity of comicon.  Sure, it's advertised as the biggest comic convention out there, but most people don't figure out what's happening on the next issue of Fantastic Spiderman.  Instead, the mainstream audience will know more about Avengers 2 and Thor 2 or the next Captain America movies.  That's because those are the cream that taste best on most people's palates. 



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S.T.A.G.E. on 26 April 2013
Ouroboros24 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Ouroboros24 said:
Cj2i3 said:
I'm sure Nintendo has something big to show or at least something kind of big. It could be a possibility they don't want to share the spotlight with Sony and Microsoft since all eyes will be on the two new consoles. So they would rather hold a separate conference to show off games, but it is also possible that they have nothing to show they perhaps could be a year away from releasing those big name games.

I want to add that there is no actual spotlight for them to share, metaphorically and literally.  With the videogame industry, it like the saying goes, "the cream always rises to the top."  Whatever the format they so choose, or what ever is the biggest announcements, the flame from either Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft will spread.  As videogame enthusiasts, we will find out the biggest news from all 3 companies. 

Yes, but Nintendo will suffer from lack of exposure and only gamers will know where to go and thats a minority of people. Its not the group of people Nintendo is looking for. 

That's not necessarily true.  Nintendo's exposure will carry as much as the importance they deliver.  The same with Sony and Microsoft.  Take for instance Nintendo's latest ND.  We hear mostly about the Legend of Zelda LTTP sequel and Earthbound translation.  The rest like Mario Golf, a lesser game, will have less exposure.  Same with Mario and Donkey game, which is also a lesser francise than Zelda and the recent Earthbound by way of Smash bros. Ness character. 

As for a vast marjority of people getting the information, E3 is widely praised as the epicenter of videogame information, but that information is not regularly carried out to mainstream audience.  Speak to people not in the know about E3 and a good amount of them will not know what it is.  I would go so far as to say that most people get their gaming news from the commercials they see for more recent games.  When someone like you or I look for news on gaming, we go to sites like this, other people who really arn't so interested, will wait until some flashy commercial comes along and that's when they'll start informing themselves.  Maybe if E3 was televised in a network like NBC or Fox, then it'd be useful as advertisment tool.  All the info we get come from committed sites like vgcharts or IGN.  We don't go to E3.com and look at the latest gaming news. 

Take for instance the poplarity of comicon.  Sure, it's advertised as the biggest comic convention out there, but most people don't figure out what's happening on the next issue of Fantastic Spiderman.  Instead, the mainstream audience will know more about Avengers 2 and Thor 2 or the next Captain America movies.  That's because those are the cream that taste best on most people's palates. 


What most people dont get about Nintendo in their new gen is their lack of being able to get their point across. Its becoming chronic.



Mr Khan on 26 April 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Blacksaber said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Otakumegane said:
Uh...would Sony and MS gamers care about Nintendo's press conference in the 1st place?

I mean they'll watch it sure, but will they go and buy a console for it?


I was damn close to buying a Wii after Nintendos 2010 conference. E3 is where the best show off what they've got. If you go off thinking everyone is ignorant to Nintendo or not trying to keep an open mind you'll have a bad outlook everytime. The big three are the heart and soul of E3 and the third parties are the royal subjects. When one steps down panic will occur because a lot is expected from all of them.


But they will still be there doing everything as every year before with new announcements, videos and demos only thing different is them just breaking the conferences up so each group gets the info they need...


No offense, but I dont trust anything Iwata does with Nintendo. When I was researching Nintendo I realized the time I started backpeddling from Nintendo was when he started working there and even worse when he became the president. Nintendo can break it up  into as many press conferences as they want, but they will be small conferences with their adoring core and not the casuals that Nintendo became so in love with in 2006.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD50D631C1566B340

Look at the hits on those. Is that what you call impressive? Those are all of their Nintendo Directs.

Look how many people looked at this trailer thinking the PS4 was imminent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyFmxNLH0YA

Look at what happens when Sony shows a quick clip of the highlights of the press conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7QhUL8NUK4&list=PLol_ykYs3OQ65y4avMdbMk_k96z3lMt6W&index=10

Record numbers for Sony.

5x Nintendos current Youtube subscribers. 

Double their views in millions.

Your net analytics skills leave something to be desired. The second video you linked is called "Playstation 4." Everyone knew there was going to be a Playstation 4, with just that name, as far back as 2005. A simple term to google, no?

Dengle, meanwhile, provided evidence to the effect that various clips of Nintendo Directs are more popular than various clips of actual Nintendo E3 keynotes.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 26 April 2013
Mr Khan said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Blacksaber said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Otakumegane said:
Uh...would Sony and MS gamers care about Nintendo's press conference in the 1st place?

I mean they'll watch it sure, but will they go and buy a console for it?


I was damn close to buying a Wii after Nintendos 2010 conference. E3 is where the best show off what they've got. If you go off thinking everyone is ignorant to Nintendo or not trying to keep an open mind you'll have a bad outlook everytime. The big three are the heart and soul of E3 and the third parties are the royal subjects. When one steps down panic will occur because a lot is expected from all of them.


But they will still be there doing everything as every year before with new announcements, videos and demos only thing different is them just breaking the conferences up so each group gets the info they need...


No offense, but I dont trust anything Iwata does with Nintendo. When I was researching Nintendo I realized the time I started backpeddling from Nintendo was when he started working there and even worse when he became the president. Nintendo can break it up  into as many press conferences as they want, but they will be small conferences with their adoring core and not the casuals that Nintendo became so in love with in 2006.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD50D631C1566B340

Look at the hits on those. Is that what you call impressive? Those are all of their Nintendo Directs.

Look how many people looked at this trailer thinking the PS4 was imminent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyFmxNLH0YA

Look at what happens when Sony shows a quick clip of the highlights of the press conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7QhUL8NUK4&list=PLol_ykYs3OQ65y4avMdbMk_k96z3lMt6W&index=10

Record numbers for Sony.

5x Nintendos current Youtube subscribers. 

Double their views in millions.

Your net analytics skills leave something to be desired. The second video you linked is called "Playstation 4." Everyone knew there was going to be a Playstation 4, with just that name, as far back as 2005. A simple term to google, no?

Dengle, meanwhile, provided evidence to the effect that various clips of Nintendo Directs are more popular than various clips of actual Nintendo E3 keynotes.


Show me hits. Thats the only evidence.  Its about exposure and Nintendos content just isnt there to gain the exposure they desire with the Wii U. It generally gets the attention of the nintendo faithful which is why the figures are in the low six figures average.



Mr Khan on 26 April 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Khan said:

Your net analytics skills leave something to be desired. The second video you linked is called "Playstation 4." Everyone knew there was going to be a Playstation 4, with just that name, as far back as 2005. A simple term to google, no?

Dengle, meanwhile, provided evidence to the effect that various clips of Nintendo Directs are more popular than various clips of actual Nintendo E3 keynotes.


Show me hits. Thats the only evidence.  

He did. He demonstrated that the Iwata w/Bananas clip outpaced any individual clip from Nintendo's E3 2011, or how well the presentation of X did. You've demonstrated only that Sony knows naming a video after a console that everyone knew was coming is a good way to get hits (and it is quite smart on their part, both the naming conventions and the naming of that video specifically)



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BluGamer23 on 26 April 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
BluGamer23 said:
I love how some of you thinks the pressers are the only one that gets attention and coverage... LoL

Anything that gets shown will get coverage especially from Nintendo.


If I ever get a company, remind me not to hire you for a marketing plan. I want to reach as many people as possible, aare  most people who have shows on the net are saying its very risky to exposure, what Nintendo is doing. Very, very risky, its like they are going into hiding to just their Nintendo fans and no one outside.


LoL .. okay no worries. why would I want to work for your company who doesnt take risks.. 

No risk no reward! .. Nintendo gambled on the DS .. what happened? .. they gambled on the wii.. what happened? And also with 3DS.. u see whats happening! .. and we are still yet to see the wiiU effect for nextgen when all consoles are out...

 

Point is you dont anything when it comes to business decisions.. so sit tight and watch noob.

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