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Blacksaber on 25 April 2013
pezus said:
Proclus said:
So, what happens next time when they don't get extra monies from selling buildings? Are they expecting to profit next Q?


They will always have more buildings


And when they run out of buildings they will auction Kaz's unneeded organs on Ebay for extra cash.



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theprof00 on 25 April 2013
Proclus said:
So, what happens next time when they don't get extra monies from selling buildings? Are they expecting to profit next Q?

They won't need to. Notice how they said they were raising forecasts because of improved sales. The stock has been undervalued a great deal, and they've been unfairly downgraded at least once. Sony is on the road to recovery, and it's been that way for a while. Reason it took so long was because they got hammered with 2 natural disasters, on top of downgrades, and FUD.



ZaneWane on 25 April 2013

smart idea selling headquarters

VXIII on 25 April 2013
Carl2291 said:
Did the Xperia Z do better than expected or something?


Some unofficial sources suggest tha Xperia Z sold 4.6 Million units in the first 40 days since launch, that's really big.



the2real4mafol on 25 April 2013

Vita global price cut inbound?
and i guess they expect PS4 to do very well plus there other areas of business may be on the up



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Flanneryaug on 25 April 2013

Looks like selling buildings has worked very well for them. They should get into the real estate business.



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TheBlackNaruto on 25 April 2013

So wait they upped the forecast from what they had already with the buildings they were selling right? So is it ONLY due to weaker yen or due to weaker yen AND improved sales(Xperia Z, PS3, games etc)????

This is positive news right?



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theprof00 on 25 April 2013
kowenicki said:
theprof00 said:
Proclus said:
So, what happens next time when they don't get extra monies from selling buildings? Are they expecting to profit next Q?

They won't need to. Notice how they said they were raising forecasts because of improved sales. The stock has been undervalued a great deal, and they've been unfairly downgraded at least once. Sony is on the road to recovery, and it's been that way for a while. Reason it took so long was because they got hammered with 2 natural disasters, on top of downgrades, and FUD.


I love this kind of level headed "analysis"

They have profitted $2bn from asset sales. 

So without that they would have had a $1.5bn loss this FY

It is right there in the opening post... sony are saying it themselves.   

That doesnt bode well given the yen has been much, much weaker than they predicted... giving a huge boost to their earnings.   Go read some analysis...

What is it with the persecution compex?    Nobody is out to get Sony, this is the reality of their predicament.

persecution complex? Do you really think Sony straight up lost 1.5b this FY for nothing? They have bills. They paid bills. They needed to restructure, they needed new R&D. They needed to pay severance packages, they needed new promotions, and they needed new marketing. This all costs money. These are initial high payments into a long-term strategy.

I don't know how you don't see this.

EDIT: Not to mention they barely saw any upward movement last quarter from the yen, and reported what, 300m$ loss, and 200m before that and 250m before that, and that was WITH the sale of the buildings (iirc).



Talal on 25 April 2013
kowenicki said:
theprof00 said:
Proclus said:
So, what happens next time when they don't get extra monies from selling buildings? Are they expecting to profit next Q?

They won't need to. Notice how they said they were raising forecasts because of improved sales. The stock has been undervalued a great deal, and they've been unfairly downgraded at least once. Sony is on the road to recovery, and it's been that way for a while. Reason it took so long was because they got hammered with 2 natural disasters, on top of downgrades, and FUD.


I love this kind of level headed "analysis"

They have profitted $2bn from asset sales. 

So without that they would have had a $1.5bn loss this FY

It is right there in the opening post... sony are saying it themselves.   

That doesnt bode well given the yen has been much, much weaker than they predicted... giving a huge boost to their earnings.   Go read some analysis...

What is it with the persecution compex?    Nobody is out to get Sony, this is the reality of their predicament.


You critisized some analysts for what they said about Microsoft. He may just disagree with them that's all.



Proclus on 25 April 2013

Hmm, they could post profits from now on, on the other hand we have to take into account they might have to sell PS4 for a loss for a few Q's that could comprise that.