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J_Allard said:
platformmaster918 said:

right so in other words you have no counter.  How else would it be the PS3's worst region?  I mean seriously I only would've said it was PS3's worst region if I was talking marketshare.  How else would it be PS3's worst region?  That's nice that 3DS outsold it in 2012, but like I said it definitely is getting outsold week to week right now.

No counter to what? Yikes, you're still stuck on worst region. I understand that if you look at it in a:

Japan: 2nd place
EU: 2nd place
US: 3rd place

manner, it is PS3's "worst region". But you're comparing pure sales numbers between it and the 3DS. So the reality is:

Japan: 9+ million
EU: 29+ million
US: 26+ million

So even if, by marketshare, the US is PS3's "worst region", getting outsold by it here is not some huge deal  because it sells very well here. Again, you're just using a marketshare spin because it's the absolute only way you can try to put some negativity on the numbers. It's sad and hilarious to see both at the same time. Toodles.

Look it's just something I naturally noticed.  If you wanna say I'm trying to be negative or putting a "spin" on something then fine whatever.  Not sure what the 3DS marketshare is in the US but maybe it's both of their worst regions.  I don't really care enough to check that though as I've already made my point repeatedly and you're just making it out to be some sort of made up fact.  It's not any sort of fact.  I'm just saying that things don't look great in the US for 3DS (except of course if compared to Vita lol).




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TheLastStarFighter said:
Kasz216 said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
This thread has gone all over the place and has some misinfo and misunderstanding.

The PS3 is the second biggest comeback console. #1 is the SNES, and the stories are kinda similar for the two. The SNES launched last behind the Genesis and Turbographix 16, but it was more powerful and had much better 3rd party support. As the generation went on the other systems lost steam while the SNES eventually dominated the market. Whoever said Genesis beat SNES and was a big comeback is way off. SNES outsold Genesis 50 million to 30 million. Genesis was an early starter, not a comeback.

PS3 is a similar story, as it was a follow up to a massive success but started slow and took a long time to gain market. But it istn't the biggest comeback because, as has been said by others, it's still in last place. It will probably finish a slight second in the end but it will still have about 30% market share. SNES meanwhile went from last to around 60% market share, making it a much, much bigger comeback success.

Did the SNES start selling awful though?

I mean... as i seemed to remember, the Genesis had such a huge lead because the NES was still doing amazing so it took a while for it to even need to be released.

The SNES was never awful, but it was behind. It was behind in total sales, in market share, and most importantly, was behind in current weekly sales as well.  Upon its release it was selling at a slower rate than Genesis in the US, Europe and globaly in total.  It wasn't just a head start for Genesis, Sega was doing better head-to-head.  The launch of Street Fighter 2 and other major third party content changed perception, and as Genesis died DKC was released and SNES lived on long after.  The situation is very much like PS3 vs Wii.  SNES remains the one console that used processing power as a significant edge to winning a generation, though you could argue that games like DKC were more about programing tricks than the power of SNES.

 

Very interesting and not at all how I remember it.

 

Did you read my reply ? Do you have a source that SNES was losing ?

 

You do realize that losing means that the SNES marketshare shrank at one point.

 

Genesis came 2 years earlier and build a significant lead before SNES was on the market which is why SEGA sold better. 

 

This is just natural if you play catch up. SNES got more and more marketshare and PS3 even lost Marketshare to 360/Wii at some point, this never happened to the SNES afair. It was behind  like PS4/720 are behind to the Wii U now. But if they steadily gain new marketshare once they are released and catch the Wii U years later, would that mean they lost to Wii U at first,  and when they catched it down the line they made a comeback ? 

We certainly have two different ways to define losing. 

But maybe I just remember it wrong, maybe Sega infact let SNES first build up marketshare which they then lost and later regained.

 

I feel like I am misunderstanding your posts thats why I want to see the numbers, I looked but I couldn't find a source.

 

Right now it  almosts seems to me that by your definition the PS2 was losing to the Dreamcast and had a comeback when  

it caught up to its sales.

 

But if you are right I really wonder how the SNES managed to win that thing by such a big margin in the last years of the Gen. When did the catch up start ? In order to make a comeback you have to lose something first. But SNES never lost anything it had nothing in the first place . It was Nintendos decision that SNES was released 2 years after the competition  the System itself never failed  it did well from the start and was neither unhealthy (no losses) nor was it ever losing marketshare it once had .  I fail to see how the SNES made the greatest comeback if it was objectively in a better position than PS3 was.  

 



Netyaroze said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
Kasz216 said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
This thread has gone all over the place and has some misinfo and misunderstanding.

The PS3 is the second biggest comeback console. #1 is the SNES, and the stories are kinda similar for the two. The SNES launched last behind the Genesis and Turbographix 16, but it was more powerful and had much better 3rd party support. As the generation went on the other systems lost steam while the SNES eventually dominated the market. Whoever said Genesis beat SNES and was a big comeback is way off. SNES outsold Genesis 50 million to 30 million. Genesis was an early starter, not a comeback.

PS3 is a similar story, as it was a follow up to a massive success but started slow and took a long time to gain market. But it istn't the biggest comeback because, as has been said by others, it's still in last place. It will probably finish a slight second in the end but it will still have about 30% market share. SNES meanwhile went from last to around 60% market share, making it a much, much bigger comeback success.

Did the SNES start selling awful though?

I mean... as i seemed to remember, the Genesis had such a huge lead because the NES was still doing amazing so it took a while for it to even need to be released.

The SNES was never awful, but it was behind. It was behind in total sales, in market share, and most importantly, was behind in current weekly sales as well.  Upon its release it was selling at a slower rate than Genesis in the US, Europe and globaly in total.  It wasn't just a head start for Genesis, Sega was doing better head-to-head.  The launch of Street Fighter 2 and other major third party content changed perception, and as Genesis died DKC was released and SNES lived on long after.  The situation is very much like PS3 vs Wii.  SNES remains the one console that used processing power as a significant edge to winning a generation, though you could argue that games like DKC were more about programing tricks than the power of SNES.

 

Very interesting and not at all how I remember it.

 

Did you read my reply ? Do you have a source that SNES was losing ?

 

You do realize that losing means that the SNES marketshare shrank at one point.

 

Genesis came 2 years earlier and build a significant lead before SNES was on the market which is why SEGA sold better. 

 

This is just natural if you play catch up. SNES got more and more marketshare and PS3 even lost Marketshare to 360/Wii at some point, this never happened to the SNES afair. It was behind  like PS4/720 are behind to the Wii U now. But if they steadily gain new marketshare once they are released and catch the Wii U years later, would that mean they lost to Wii U at first,  and when they catched it down the line they made a comeback ? 

We certainly have two different ways to define losing. 

But maybe I just remember it wrong, maybe Sega infact let SNES first build up marketshare which they then lost and later regained.

 

I feel like I am misunderstanding your posts thats why I want to see the numbers, I looked but I couldn't find a source.

 

Right now it  almosts seems to me that by your definition the PS2 was losing to the Dreamcast and had a comeback when  

it caught up to its sales.

 

But if you are right I really wonder how the SNES managed to win that thing by such a big margin in the last years of the Gen. When did the catch up start ? In order to make a comeback you have to lose something first. But SNES never lost anything it had nothing in the first place . It was Nintendos decision that SNES was released 2 years after the competition  the System itself never failed  it did well from the start and was neither unhealthy (no losses) nor was it ever losing marketshare it once had .  I fail to see how the SNES made the greatest comeback if it was objectively in a better position than PS3 was.  

 

actually SNES did lose market share.  It sold less than NES and SEGA sold significantly more Genesis systems than it did Master systems (the one competing with NES).




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BHR-3 said:
disagree

still in 3rd
still getting inferior multiplats
still no cross game voice chat



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No console has made the comeback the PS3 has. I definitely agree...only Sony could pull this off.



platformmaster918 said:

actually SNES did lose market share.  It sold less than NES and SEGA sold significantly more Genesis systems than it did Master systems (the one competing with NES).


I am talking about the same generation not total marketshare over two generations  . PS3 lost marketshare in the same gen it was 2008 I think and SNES never did that.

 

The guy I was quoting says the SNES comeback was more impressive. I say neither PS3 nor SNES made a comeback but for different reasons.

 

PS3 hasn't come back yet.

SNES was never in a situation to come back from, it gained steadily marketshare as far as I remember.

If there is a comeback candidate its PS3. Biggest drop of from predecessor marketshare. Highest losses over several years. Loss of already gained marketshare. 

 

SNES is by no metric in the running for biggest comeback even if PS3 falls short. Unless I see the numbers in what way SNES made a comeback  that eclipses what PS3 seems to do. I can't believe what he is saying .

 

 



Netyaroze said:
platformmaster918 said:

actually SNES did lose market share.  It sold less than NES and SEGA sold significantly more Genesis systems than it did Master systems (the one competing with NES).


I am talking about the same generation not total marketshare over two generations  . PS3 lost marketshare in the same gen it was 2008 I think and SNES never did that.

 

The guy I was quoting says the SNES comeback was more impressive. I say neither PS3 nor SNES made a comeback but for different reasons.

 

PS3 hasn't come back yet.

SNES was never in a situation to come back from, it gained steadily marketshare as far as I remember.

If there is a comeback candidate its PS3. Biggest drop of from predecessor marketshare. Highest losses over several years. Loss of already gained marketshare. 

 

SNES is by no metric in the running for biggest comeback even if PS3 falls short. Unless I see the numbers in what way SNES made a comeback  that eclipses what PS3 seems to do. I can't believe what he is saying .

 

 

ok gotcha.  Yeah we're talking in gen I guess so I wish people would stop saying Wii is a comeback from Gamecube.




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The console system wars has been very exciting this generation. PS3 over taking the XBox 360 will confirm the PS3 is a more popular system and a better system than the XBox 360. Your console system outselling another console system gives you bragging rights to claim my console system is better than your console system.



Dark_Lord_2008 said:

The console system wars has been very exciting this generation. PS3 over taking the XBox 360 will confirm the PS3 is a more popular system and a better system than the XBox 360. Your console system outselling another console system gives you bragging rights to claim my console system is better than your console system.

Yeah...so now that PS3 is overtaking 360 you'll say that.  The 1 year head start, being less expensive, and heavier and better marketing helped 360 for awhile, but they won't have those advantages that have nothing to do with being the better overal console this gen so we'll see how that goes.




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