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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - UPDATE! vgleaks: Microsoft Xbox Roadmap (2013) - possible bc, online not required, used games allowed

Scisca said:
MB1025 said:
Scisca said:
MB1025 said:
The difference with Nintend/Sega and Microsoft is the Xbox Mini just isn't an attachment to play your physical copy 360 games on the 720. It is there to function as an Apple TV/Roku that also can play 360/XBLA games. If you as the consumer wants to have everything on the 720 than you can buy the 720 and Mini. If not just keep your older 360 around.

You just can't compare the 2 situations.

Yes I can. I'm European and as far as I'm concerned something like Apple TV, Roku or Netflix does not exist. To tell the truth I don't even know what these things do and what they are all about, I've never even heard the word "Roku" before, so I don't know if it is a product or a service. We don't get all these media services, so for us a gaming console is exactly that - a gaming console. Hence to me this is exactly like one of those stupid and confusing Nintendo or SEGA devices. Maybe you Americans see it differently, but I guess you're in a different situation.

Jeeze. Well take it from "the american". It isn't the same.

Jeeze. Learn to read (or think?). It is the same for everyone except for NA. It may be different for you, but not for us, so you can't just say "it isn't the same".


That is nice. Do you get paid to act like a shitty person online?

Also if you were confused by Sega and Nintendo maybe you are the one that needs to read and think.

 

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walsufnir said:

Microsoft is working hard in its new strategy for the next years. The company wants to expand its Xbox brand with two new Xbox. One would be next-gen, the other one would be a new redesign for Xbox 360. Take in mind the Wii Mini, MS would like to offer something similar to Nintendo. This cheap model would be focused as a set top box product, although you will be able to load games too, but the games should be load directly from the HDD. This Xbox wouldn’t have disc drive.

We have received new information about the latest Xbox Roadmap. Our source unveils new details for Durango, Xbox mini and the Microsoft strategy; moreover we don’t forget Kinect 2.0.

Microsoft expands its Xbox brand

Getting to the point there are going to be two console as part of the redesigned “Xbox Line” of products. A repackaged and reoriented Xbox 360 unit and the new “Durango” gaming console, both designed to compete with more than Sony in gaming, but against Apple as well.

When the Durango (game machine) launches, it will not support backwards compatibility for 360 games out of the box. Instead, this functionality will come from the other unit that will be networked with the Durango to provide this (not unlike the DVD add-on for the original Xbox).

The purpose of the smaller Xbox unit is to compete with Apple TV, but also provides XBLA and 360 game support which will give it an edge over Apple TV. The rumors of “always online required” comes from the smaller Xbox unit which may not have a disc drive and like Apple TV it would require a network connection and internet to provide any real functionality. It may be possible they will design both consoles to be stackable.

Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games. Putting in an Xbox 360 disc into Durango will prompt the user to attach the supporting device that is sold separately. By separating the two devices and their functions it will ensure price competitiveness for both pieces of hardware. Microsoft’s delay in announcing these products from April goes more inline with not having a physical set of devices to show (among specification updates), which should be ready by May or June when this information is officially released.

The price goal of the smaller Xbox is $149 or lower and it is likely to not have a disc drive and would require a network connection. Durango will be priced competitively according to PS4′s price.

Kinect 2.0

A different department within Xbox handles Kinect hardware and software. The focus was more on developing and networking both consoles with Kinect more of an after thought at that point, considering dealing with it would be less of an issue even with hardware changes to the main console hardware. Kinect isn’t the primary focus.

The development kits required several pieces of hardware as to combine all “potential” hardware which may or may not be required to work with each other, which also includes the potential for any or all devices to required a network connection, which is where most of the “required” rumors are coming from.


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http://www.vgleaks.com/microsoft-xbox-roadmap-2013/

 

 

Discuss :) I am curious now MS, tell us the truth!

 

UPDATE:

Xbox Mini

The “Xbox Mini” is not a 360 add-on, it is a stand alone product that contains Xbox 360 functions for gaming, and alone it is meant to compete with Apple TV. Since it is likely it will not have a disc drive, it is being designed with “always online” in mind, and with internet being required for Live functions. Xbox 360 Games can be played on it by purchasing Games on Demand on Xbox Live (for new purchases) or if already purchased, simply download it. This also applies to music and movies. To further clarify, the Durango will also have these (TV) functions, just with next-genration gaming hardware instead of Xbox 360 at a higher price.

When used with Durango, it offers connectivity with it for backwards compatibility with both disc based and On Demand games, and it’s no more different than what Sony will be doing with Gaikai for playing PS3 games on PS4, only with Xbox it will be done locally and not through the cloud. You can control the Xbox Mini under a single interface and not have to worry about switching between devices in a single display input.

These connectivity functions cannot work with existing Xbox 360 units due to the difference in external interface. The Xbox Mini was designed for this along side Durango. 

 

Holy hell dude 900+ Mmps? damn. 



VgLeaks is very reliable. So if they say the next Xbox can play games without an internet connection, I believe them.



MB1025 said:
Scisca said:
MB1025 said:
Scisca said:
MB1025 said:
The difference with Nintend/Sega and Microsoft is the Xbox Mini just isn't an attachment to play your physical copy 360 games on the 720. It is there to function as an Apple TV/Roku that also can play 360/XBLA games. If you as the consumer wants to have everything on the 720 than you can buy the 720 and Mini. If not just keep your older 360 around.

You just can't compare the 2 situations.

Yes I can. I'm European and as far as I'm concerned something like Apple TV, Roku or Netflix does not exist. To tell the truth I don't even know what these things do and what they are all about, I've never even heard the word "Roku" before, so I don't know if it is a product or a service. We don't get all these media services, so for us a gaming console is exactly that - a gaming console. Hence to me this is exactly like one of those stupid and confusing Nintendo or SEGA devices. Maybe you Americans see it differently, but I guess you're in a different situation.

Jeeze. Well take it from "the american". It isn't the same.

Jeeze. Learn to read (or think?). It is the same for everyone except for NA. It may be different for you, but not for us, so you can't just say "it isn't the same".


That is nice. Do you get paid to act like a shitty person online?

Also if you were confused by Sega and Nintendo maybe you are the one that needs to read and think.


Lame attempt, very poor insinuations. You have to try a lot harder to tackle such a shitty person like me. Or you could do what I do and actually have an argument, but I guess that would be way above your league.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

Scisca said:
MB1025 said:
The difference with Nintend/Sega and Microsoft is the Xbox Mini just isn't an attachment to play your physical copy 360 games on the 720. It is there to function as an Apple TV/Roku that also can play 360/XBLA games. If you as the consumer wants to have everything on the 720 than you can buy the 720 and Mini. If not just keep your older 360 around.

You just can't compare the 2 situations.

Yes I can. I'm European and as far as I'm concerned something like Apple TV, Roku or Netflix does not exist. To tell the truth I don't even know what these things do and what they are all about, I've never even heard the word "Roku" before, so I don't know if it is a product or a service. We don't get all these media services, so for us a gaming console is exactly that - a gaming console. Hence to me this is exactly like one of those stupid and confusing Nintendo or SEGA devices. Maybe you Americans see it differently, but I guess you're in a different situation.

apple tv, roku, this rumured xbox mini, they are streaming devices. they are hooked to to your tv (or monitor) and enable you to access a variety of streaming services. so the devices do the streaming, and the videos come from various sources, wether that be your own pc, neflix, crackle, love film, etc. these devices (or their equivilants) are used in europe as well as in the us. think of them as a small stripped down pc used to stream video to your tv. the xbox is kind of merging the two, as is the ps3/ps4. since any gaming machine can also stream video easily it makes sence to have 1 device do both.