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BossPuma said:

Sounds like an interesting theory, I suspect after this gen is over, Nintendo will completely switch over to handheld gaming. Its a great thing for them to do imo. Maybe there will be better Wii U functionality such as being able to play HD graphics off tv on a bus or something over wifi. Or they could make a super powerful handheld, and forget consoles all together


I don't know if I would go as far as to say that they will go handheld ONLY.  They did combine their handheld and console R&D divisions recently so I am thinking something more along the lines of a hybrid as others have mentioned.

If they invest in graphene technology for some parts (incredibly cheap really) they could easily have a device that is plugged into the TV, maybe even via a dongle, to stream to it. Wireless graphene antennas are currently capable of 100tb/s in this early prototype phase. Streaming the entire game to a tv using that would be a cakewalk. The handheld portion would naturally have a screen, maybe of clamshell design to protect it, a large hard drive (SSD or something similar for quick access/also graphene memory as GFM), large battery (graphene would help here too, charging speeds 1000x faster than Li-ion). 

On Graphene Flash Memory in 2011: "Researchers at UCLA have developed a high-capacity and fast flash memory device through integrating graphene layers with conventional metal-oxide-semiconductor (MOS) technology. The novel device exhibits ultra-low power consumption, making it a promising candidate for terabit flash memory in portable electronic devices."- Terabit flash memory? Holy crap...

The player would be able to stream to the TV in order to get the full screen experience, either save the game to the portable (if it isn't all 1 device) or stop streaming, put the device in their pocket like a cell phone, and play full HD games with powerful specs (probably higher than this gen's) on the go, whenever they want.

The low cost of producing graphene components (scientists made over 100 super-capacitors on the surface of a DVD using a consumer grade LightScribe burner in under 30 minutes,) would make the device's electronics very cheap and that would be passed on to the consumer, resulting in a massive "impulse buy" price that would be hard to ignore. Being cheap doesn't mean weak though, graphene is 200 times stronger than steel, can be stretched by 20% without failing, is a better conductor than copper and an elephant would have to have all of its weight focused down to the tip of a pencil to penetrate it.

That is a bit off-topic though, haha. It would definitely be the best option for Nintendo to make a hybrid. People wouldn't need to buy 2 devices in order to enjoy all of Nintendo's games and they could choose if they wanted to use it as a console or a handheld.



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RicardJulianti said:
BossPuma said:

Sounds like an interesting theory, I suspect after this gen is over, Nintendo will completely switch over to handheld gaming. Its a great thing for them to do imo. Maybe there will be better Wii U functionality such as being able to play HD graphics off tv on a bus or something over wifi. Or they could make a super powerful handheld, and forget consoles all together


I don't know if I would go as far as to say that they will go handheld ONLY.  They did combine their handheld and console R&D divisions recently so I am thinking something more along the lines of a hybrid as others have mentioned.

If they invest in graphene technology for some parts (incredibly cheap really) they could easily have a device that is plugged into the TV, maybe even via a dongle, to stream to it. Wireless graphene antennas are currently capable of 100tb/s in this early prototype phase. Streaming the entire game to a tv using that would be a cakewalk. The handheld portion would naturally have a screen, maybe of clamshell design to protect it, a large hard drive (SSD or something similar for quick access/also graphene memory as GFM), large battery (graphene would help here too, charging speeds 1000x faster than Li-ion). 

On Graphene Flash Memory in 2011: "Researchers at UCLA have developed a high-capacity and fast flash memory device through integrating graphene layers with conventional metal-oxide-semiconductor (MOS) technology. The novel device exhibits ultra-low power consumption, making it a promising candidate for terabit flash memory in portable electronic devices."- Terabit flash memory? Holy crap...

The player would be able to stream to the TV in order to get the full screen experience, either save the game to the portable (if it isn't all 1 device) or stop streaming, put the device in their pocket like a cell phone, and play full HD games with powerful specs (probably higher than this gen's) on the go, whenever they want.

The low cost of producing graphene components (scientists made over 100 super-capacitors on the surface of a DVD using a consumer grade LightScribe burner in under 30 minutes,) would make the device's electronics very cheap and that would be passed on to the consumer, resulting in a massive "impulse buy" price that would be hard to ignore. Being cheap doesn't mean weak though, graphene is 200 times stronger than steel, can be stretched by 20% without failing, is a better conductor than copper and an elephant would have to have all of its weight focused down to the tip of a pencil to penetrate it.

That is a bit off-topic though, haha. It would definitely be the best option for Nintendo to make a hybrid. People wouldn't need to buy 2 devices in order to enjoy all of Nintendo's games and they could choose if they wanted to use it as a console or a handheld.


Lol, thats a bit over my head. But i agree, that is a great idea.



BossPuma said:
RicardJulianti said:
BossPuma said:

Sounds like an interesting theory, I suspect after this gen is over, Nintendo will completely switch over to handheld gaming. Its a great thing for them to do imo. Maybe there will be better Wii U functionality such as being able to play HD graphics off tv on a bus or something over wifi. Or they could make a super powerful handheld, and forget consoles all together


GRAPHENE!!


Lol, thats a bit over my head. But i agree, that is a great idea.

Sorry about that, haha. I tend to get excited about things and ramble on and on. Basically it boils down to whoever implements graphene first is going to rock the house. It would be most beneficial to Nintendo if they do go the hybrid route...and man it would be awesome. For a point of reference, the most advanced wireless bandwidth tech we currently have is  1.3 gbps, while graphene is capable of 100tbps, ~100k times faster. In a computer, you would be able to wirelessly transfer your entire collection of blu-ray quality movies in seconds.

The supercapacitors produced on that DVD had some of the highest power density values produced in any supercapacitors. Simply meaning that they are able to hold as much power as much larger supercapcitors in a very small space....which is impressive in this early stage. It took regular supercapacitors years and years to reach that level.

I am highly considering writing an email to Nintendo's R&D suggesting looking into it. If they make the Wii U last for 7 years (pushing it, but possible) graphene could easily be ready for the things I outlined....maybe even sooner than then. 

I better stop now before I go on another long rant about this...



I think it's just a lack of leadership and Nintendo either being too greedy or indecisive.

They're straddling both a hardcore and casual audience. They're hoping that the tablet interface would appeal to non-hardcore gamers, and that they could still retain and possibly attract a hardcore audience with the more traditional thumbsticks and controller design.

So, in the end, they released a console that appeals to neither audience. It's too limited in terms of function that the casuals care about (portability and non-gaming use) and hardcore fans care about (power, third party support).

They reaped the benefits of their blue ocean strategy (looking to new customers and appealing to them rather than your old customers), and now that they lost both the new and old customers, they're trying to get them both with the WiiU.



NintendoPie said:
Busted said:


To me it doesn't make any sense (you theory) but you could be right, that's exactly the point, u'll never know what will be their next surprise that's why speculating about nintendo is very unhealthy and has been proven to cause dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, fluid retention, painful rectal product, hallucinations, dementia, psychosis, coma, death, and halitosis, it's a little dangerous so i like to play it safe and wait.

I'm guessing this means that Pachter has been involved in all of these things. The question is, why isn't he dead yet?


he did mention hallucinations, so i have to agree with him



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I myself prefer the handheld consoles, you can always have it with you and you don't need to depend on your T.V to play it... seems like the handheld revolution is here and I don't mind seeing a future where a 3DS or PSV rule the market.



 

They are just catering to there Japanese fanbase who loves handhelds



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It is interesting to see how it will all play out. 3rd party multiplat games that force me to use the Wii u/thumb sticks will be given a miss by me personally, and I'll get them on Steam instead and play with KB+M. I'm that done with thumbstick controls, myself. I wonder how many other people out there ar ein the same boat.



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No, the tablet is nothing more than the console version of the DS' second screen. The Wii-mote was the stylist from the DS. I guess they would have started work on glassless 3D for their next console if it wasn't so ill-received on the 3DS.